Should we fire RR?

vtiger72 · 12-27-2014, 04:33 PM

Rob Ryan has never been a good teacher and always relies on his position coaches to do that part. His teams in Dallas were bad tacklers as well.

halloween 65 · 12-28-2014, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by vtiger72

Rob Ryan has never been a good teacher and always relies on his position coaches to do that part. His teams in Dallas were bad tacklers as well.

Tackling has been a problem not only with Ryan being here that problem goes way back. I blame that simple problem on all them not teaching fundamental football.

spkb25 · 12-28-2014, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Tackling has been a problem not only with Ryan being here that problem goes way back. I blame that simple problem on all them not teaching fundamental football.

I feel like it is an attitude, what do you think? Like you're either nasty or you're not??

Danno · 12-28-2014, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Tackling has been a problem not only with Ryan being here that problem goes way back. I blame that simple problem on all them not teaching fundamental football.

Our best year tackling in recent memory was 2013, which coincidentally was the year our defense finished 4th.

I'm thinking there may be a connection there.

spkb25 · 12-28-2014, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Our best year tackling in recent memory was 2013, which coincidentally was the year our defense finished 4th.

I'm thinking there may be a connection there.

Know what I noticed one game watching Seattle? They almost always make a tackle immediately after the guy catches the ball. No free yards. You earn everything against them.

halloween 65 · 12-28-2014, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Our best year tackling in recent memory was 2013, which coincidentally was the year our defense finished 4th.

I'm thinking there may be a connection there.

I can't figure it out, we looked like a top 10 D during pre-season just to fail miserably during the season, they had me drinking the kool-aid by the gallon.

brees84 · 12-28-2014, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Our best year tackling in recent memory was 2013, which coincidentally was the year our defense finished 4th.

I'm thinking there may be a connection there.

And in the offseason someone came up with a brilliant idea that we should change our tackling technique. Spend entire TC "forcing turnovers" and the final result is this 2014 garbage.

blackangold · 12-28-2014, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by brees84

And in the offseason someone came up with a brilliant idea that we should change our tackling technique. Spend entire TC "forcing turnovers" and the final result is this 2014 garbage.

That was Sean Payton's direction, can't blame Rob for that change.

brees84 · 12-28-2014, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

That was Sean Payton's direction, can't blame Rob for that change.

Yes. I was thinking the same. I think that Sean has too much power regarding defense.

spkb25 · 12-28-2014, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

That was Sean Payton's direction, can't blame Rob for that change.

Pretty sure the idea in the offseason was to find a way to create turnovers since we really hadn't the year before. How does that turn into SP instructed the defense to strip the ball and forget to tackle?

I didn't see a lot of trying to knock the ball out anyway, I saw people out of position and/or taking bad angles. ****ing SP for the defense blowing dick, GTFOH with your agenda.

12-27-2014, 04:33 PM	#1
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by vtiger72 Rob Ryan has never been a good teacher and always relies on his position coaches to do that part. His teams in Dallas were bad tacklers as well. Tackling has been a problem not only with Ryan being here that problem goes way back. I blame that simple problem on all them not teaching fundamental football. Danno likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by halloween 65 Tackling has been a problem not only with Ryan being here that problem goes way back. I blame that simple problem on all them not teaching fundamental football. I feel like it is an attitude, what do you think? Like you're either nasty or you're not?? Danno likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by halloween 65 Tackling has been a problem not only with Ryan being here that problem goes way back. I blame that simple problem on all them not teaching fundamental football. Our best year tackling in recent memory was 2013, which coincidentally was the year our defense finished 4th. I'm thinking there may be a connection there.

12-28-2014, 09:25 AM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by Danno Our best year tackling in recent memory was 2013, which coincidentally was the year our defense finished 4th. I'm thinking there may be a connection there. Know what I noticed one game watching Seattle? They almost always make a tackle immediately after the guy catches the ball. No free yards. You earn everything against them. Danno likes this.

12-28-2014, 09:31 AM	#6
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by Danno Our best year tackling in recent memory was 2013, which coincidentally was the year our defense finished 4th. I'm thinking there may be a connection there. I can't figure it out, we looked like a top 10 D during pre-season just to fail miserably during the season, they had me drinking the kool-aid by the gallon.

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brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by Danno Our best year tackling in recent memory was 2013, which coincidentally was the year our defense finished 4th. I'm thinking there may be a connection there. And in the offseason someone came up with a brilliant idea that we should change our tackling technique. Spend entire TC "forcing turnovers" and the final result is this 2014 garbage. Danno likes this.
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12-28-2014, 10:45 AM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by brees84 And in the offseason someone came up with a brilliant idea that we should change our tackling technique. Spend entire TC "forcing turnovers" and the final result is this 2014 garbage. That was Sean Payton's direction, can't blame Rob for that change.

12-28-2014, 10:59 AM	#9
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by blackangold That was Sean Payton's direction, can't blame Rob for that change. Yes. I was thinking the same. I think that Sean has too much power regarding defense.
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12-28-2014, 06:30 PM	#10
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by blackangold That was Sean Payton's direction, can't blame Rob for that change. Pretty sure the idea in the offseason was to find a way to create turnovers since we really hadn't the year before. How does that turn into SP instructed the defense to strip the ball and forget to tackle? I didn't see a lot of trying to knock the ball out anyway, I saw people out of position and/or taking bad angles. ****ing SP for the defense blowing dick, GTFOH with your agenda.

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