Should we fire RR?

spkb25 · 12-21-2014, 09:20 PM

What do you guys think?

GeauxForMore · 12-21-2014, 09:26 PM

Yes, but not just him every defensive coach. Then add some serious talent on defense. I understand our o line needs help too and we also need a big #1 WR too, but put TL in at center and we get cooks back, so we should be ok. This defense takes top priority. I dont care where the first pick goes.....DL,CB,LB,......I dont care as long as its done with the first 3 picks.

spkb25 · 12-21-2014, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

Yes, but not just him every defensive coach. Then add some serious talent on defense. I understand our o line needs help too and we also need a big #1 WR too, but put TL in at center and we get cooks back, so we should be ok. This defense takes top priority. I dont care where the first pick goes.....DL,CB,LB,......I dont care as long as its done with the first 3 picks.

I would seriously like Wade. Guy is a good d-cord

Who would you like?

GeauxForMore · 12-21-2014, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I would seriously like Wade. Guy is a good d-cord

Who would you like?

Im telling you this if Gus Bradley is available this off-season, that is who I would want running our defense.

brees84 · 12-21-2014, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

Im telling you this if Gus Bradley is available this off-season, that is who I would want running our defense.

I don't think he will be available. Jaguars will be patient with him.

brees84 · 12-21-2014, 09:32 PM

Vic Fangio and SF positional coaches.

halloween 65 · 12-21-2014, 09:35 PM

I'm on the fence with this 1. The guy was given a bad hand with Vitt and Johnson to begin with and a handful of players to deal with from the start. Now in his 2nd year(still stuck with Vitt, Johnson) and the added secondary coach which is no good, he has regressed, when I say this no adjustments, bad schemes, and flat out bad game plans, but I ask myself how much influince does Vitt, Johnson , and the other guy(keeps slipping my mind) have on the game plan. I only want a 3-4 guy if we do and 1 that don't get stuck with Vitt and Johnson,1 that could bring in his own crew.

papz · 12-21-2014, 09:37 PM

I'd like to show him some loyalty and keep him around for another season. There are plenty of scapegoats but I think it's set bad precedent for future signings/hires to give up on someone so soon. He had one great year and one horrible year... Id like to give him a fair shake and see what we can do next season. Because if we're going to fire Ryan, there are plenty coaches on both sides of the ball, and players for that matter, that have shown to be productive in the past that should be shown the door as well.

jeanpierre · 12-22-2014, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I'd like to show him some loyalty and keep him around for another season. There are plenty of scapegoats but I think it's set bad precedent for future signings/hires to give up on someone so soon. He had one great year and one horrible year... Id like to give him a fair shake and see what we can do next season. Because if we're going to fire Ryan, there are plenty coaches on both sides of the ball, and players for that matter, that have shown to be productive in the past that should be shown the door as well.

^^^THIS^^^

This is the problem: Too Many Guaranteed Contracts

How does Ryan motivate guys without the fear of them losing their jobs?!?

Problem is we need a General Manager to offset, challenge Coach Payton with a different perspective take on our personnel disposition...

Loomis and a good bit of the scouting department must go, now!!!

And like the above states, you keep firing people and fail to give them the ammo to succeed, no talented coach is going to want to come here...

K Major · 12-22-2014, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

^^^THIS^^^

This is the problem: Too Many Guaranteed Contracts

Loomis and a good bit of the scouting department must go, now!!!

And like the above states, you keep firing people and fail to give them the ammo to succeed, no talented coach is going to want to come here...

+1. We allow too many players/coaches to 'hang around'. Time to produce or show you the door. Our scouts have done a horrible job at evaluating talent.

12-21-2014, 09:26 PM	#2
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 590	Re: Should we fire RR? Yes, but not just him every defensive coach. Then add some serious talent on defense. I understand our o line needs help too and we also need a big #1 WR too, but put TL in at center and we get cooks back, so we should be ok. This defense takes top priority. I dont care where the first pick goes.....DL,CB,LB,......I dont care as long as its done with the first 3 picks.

12-21-2014, 09:29 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by GeauxForMore Yes, but not just him every defensive coach. Then add some serious talent on defense. I understand our o line needs help too and we also need a big #1 WR too, but put TL in at center and we get cooks back, so we should be ok. This defense takes top priority. I dont care where the first pick goes.....DL,CB,LB,......I dont care as long as its done with the first 3 picks. I would seriously like Wade. Guy is a good d-cord Who would you like?

12-21-2014, 09:46 PM	#4
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 590	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by spkb25 I would seriously like Wade. Guy is a good d-cord Who would you like? Im telling you this if Gus Bradley is available this off-season, that is who I would want running our defense. MatthewT likes this.

12-21-2014, 09:50 PM	#5
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by GeauxForMore Im telling you this if Gus Bradley is available this off-season, that is who I would want running our defense. I don't think he will be available. Jaguars will be patient with him.
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12-21-2014, 09:32 PM	#6
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Should we fire RR? Vic Fangio and SF positional coaches. Danno and MatthewT like this.
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12-21-2014, 09:20 PM	#1
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12-21-2014, 09:35 PM	#7
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Should we fire RR? I'm on the fence with this 1. The guy was given a bad hand with Vitt and Johnson to begin with and a handful of players to deal with from the start. Now in his 2nd year(still stuck with Vitt, Johnson) and the added secondary coach which is no good, he has regressed, when I say this no adjustments, bad schemes, and flat out bad game plans, but I ask myself how much influince does Vitt, Johnson , and the other guy(keeps slipping my mind) have on the game plan. I only want a 3-4 guy if we do and 1 that don't get stuck with Vitt and Johnson,1 that could bring in his own crew.

12-21-2014, 09:37 PM	#8
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Should we fire RR? I'd like to show him some loyalty and keep him around for another season. There are plenty of scapegoats but I think it's set bad precedent for future signings/hires to give up on someone so soon. He had one great year and one horrible year... Id like to give him a fair shake and see what we can do next season. Because if we're going to fire Ryan, there are plenty coaches on both sides of the ball, and players for that matter, that have shown to be productive in the past that should be shown the door as well. SapperSaint, jeanpierre, SloMotion and 1 others like this.
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12-22-2014, 07:44 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by papz I'd like to show him some loyalty and keep him around for another season. There are plenty of scapegoats but I think it's set bad precedent for future signings/hires to give up on someone so soon. He had one great year and one horrible year... Id like to give him a fair shake and see what we can do next season. Because if we're going to fire Ryan, there are plenty coaches on both sides of the ball, and players for that matter, that have shown to be productive in the past that should be shown the door as well. ^^^THIS^^^ This is the problem: Too Many Guaranteed Contracts How does Ryan motivate guys without the fear of them losing their jobs?!? Problem is we need a General Manager to offset, challenge Coach Payton with a different perspective take on our personnel disposition... Loomis and a good bit of the scouting department must go, now!!! And like the above states, you keep firing people and fail to give them the ammo to succeed, no talented coach is going to want to come here... K Major likes this.

12-22-2014, 08:50 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Should we fire RR? Originally Posted by jeanpierre ^^^THIS^^^ This is the problem: Too Many Guaranteed Contracts Loomis and a good bit of the scouting department must go, now!!! And like the above states, you keep firing people and fail to give them the ammo to succeed, no talented coach is going to want to come here... +1. We allow too many players/coaches to 'hang around'. Time to produce or show you the door. Our scouts have done a horrible job at evaluating talent. Barry from MS likes this.

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