Should we fire RR?
 

What do you guys think?

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Yes, but not just him every defensive coach. Then add some serious talent on defense. I understand our o line needs help too and we also need a big #1 WR too, but put TL in at center and we get cooks back, so we should be ok. This defense takes top priority. I dont care where the first pick goes.....DL,CB,LB,......I dont care as long as its done with the first 3 picks.

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I would seriously like Wade. Guy is a good d-cord

Who would you like?

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Vic Fangio and SF positional coaches.

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I'm on the fence with this 1. The guy was given a bad hand with Vitt and Johnson to begin with and a handful of players to deal with from the start. Now in his 2nd year(still stuck with Vitt, Johnson) and the added secondary coach which is no good, he has regressed, when I say this no adjustments, bad schemes, and flat out bad game plans, but I ask myself how much influince does Vitt, Johnson , and the other guy(keeps slipping my mind) have on the game plan. I only want a 3-4 guy if we do and 1 that don't get stuck with Vitt and Johnson,1 that could bring in his own crew.

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I'd like to show him some loyalty and keep him around for another season. There are plenty of scapegoats but I think it's set bad precedent for future signings/hires to give up on someone so soon. He had one great year and one horrible year... Id like to give him a fair shake and see what we can do next season. Because if we're going to fire Ryan, there are plenty coaches on both sides of the ball, and players for that matter, that have shown to be productive in the past that should be shown the door as well.

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What do I think? I think we just scored 14 points at home against the pitiful falcons with a chance to (of all things) CLINCH this horrible division.

I'm on board with any and all firings. Today was a perfect example of why I thought last week's performance was meaningless. You cannot trust this team.

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Yes, i think so.

I saw the same ****ty scheme we played all year on display again, we fixed it against CHI but went right back to it against ATL.

You cannot allow free releases, I am so tired of our DBs play 10 yds off and giving up the underneath route every time Ryan never learned and for that he should be fired.

Put it this way, what do we gain keeping him around? He is a proven loser at this point. I would love to see someone new because they can't do any worse.

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Im telling you this if Gus Bradley is available this off-season, that is who I would want running our defense.

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I would like to keep Ryan an get rid of the rest of our D coaches....especially our cb coach. I really am getting tired of being embarrassed by our lack of discipline from our cb's. Can't say if it's coaches or players,but when you get top FA's and first round talent on your team and they look lost like they never played a down in football,all signs point to coaching.

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I don't think he will be available. Jaguars will be patient with him.

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Honestly, yes.

Defensive scheme was crap from the beginning of the year. Why would anybody think this secondary should play soft zone. What's worse is, no adjustments were made until it was far too late. Far too much talent on the defensive side of the ball for this team for them to perform that poorly. Blown assignments are a sign of poor coaching.

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Who knows... are any of you depending on me for the answer?

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ya.. i dont get it at all... last year we play almost nothing but press man coverage and this year we play everyone 10 yards off the line... Rob must be dumb to not realize that was the problem all year. Our pass rush sucked but the QB always had a open WR.

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Easily, yes fire him now why not? And as for Payton, keep him for sure, but he definitely has to be on the hot seat next year for putting this pitiful team on display for us. Loomis has to go in my opinion. Him or the people who have the hands in developing players we draft. We were LUCKY to win 6 games this year plain and simple. We could've easily lost the minnesota game, lost the bucs game, played bad enough in the first half of the first CAR game to lose it quickly. We got lucky Aaron rodgers pulled his hammy otherwise that game could've gone NFCSOUTH real quickly. The Steelers had a bad day coupled with some errant throws and a sore hand from Roethlisberger. And we're lucky chicago is a bigger sh**hole than us. Now if we beat the Bucs in a convincing fashion i'll be pissed.

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Fire RR?! No...

The defense needs to keep some stability, I mean he got it done last year so we know he can coach...

Let's see what he can do with a few more pieces and maybe the original secondary can stay healthy next year...

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I never thought about all the games we should have lost/could have lost but your right... we really only had two legit wins this season, @CAR and @CHI.

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Keep him

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There is only one thing I dont get; why change the coverage scheme?

All year we played soft but in 2013 we played press, I just don't get it.

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I'm afraid we'll not only keep Ryan but keep virtually everyone together. Our organization just seems afraid to shake things up. Like they are still paralyzed from the SB win. I don't think we'll see as much housecleaning as we'd like ...

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The problem is when you look at his resume. The longer he stays with a team, the more his defense regresses. It's hard to ignore that.

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No. Now he does have the track records at DAL, CLE, and OAK going against him for sure, but there was a lot of this season's mess that was out of his hands. For starters is that "worst starting field position vs best starting position" stat. And 2nd the Front Office failed to beef up the middle of the defense up front which got exposed and we got manhandled in the run game. RR couldn't do crap about teams just cramming it down our throats even when we had 8-9 guys in the box. We got Old Schooled.

And today's mess was not on him, either...7 points in 3 quarters against 32nd is pathetic.

He certainly made his fair share of mistakes, but I don't believe they are all unemployment worthy.

Greg McMahon & Joe Vitt, on the other hand, needed to be on the very first bus out of Louisiana some time ago...

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You know vitt and all of paytons buddies aren't going anywhere. .. don't be silly. Ill be shocked if any of the awful position coaches are let go... shocked

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Im unsure if he is the rightman or not but the issue runs deeper than Rob. Not much a DC can do if the pass rushers can't shed blocks

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lets see what is one the market.

SF? well that is a staff loaded and knows it's talent and has a history to back it up

Jets? Yet another unit that has a better history

sorry if talent is available from any of these two group of coaches you have to make the move. that is just a few teams that have a proven track record that with out a doubt are better than anything Rob can boost about

he was ranked at the bottom of my wish list when we signed him, In no way do i have any loyalty to the guy.

But I have to give him credit were credit is do. he has worked his way all the way to the top of my no big lose list. ok he was always up there but now he has a firm grasp on the position.

he is #1 in my book.

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Once you get on that coaching-merry-go-round, it's hard to get off, just sayin' ... one quick fix follows another and nothing really changes. You gotta' ask yourself, "What will a new DC give me that I don't already have?". If the answer is something tangible, then go for it. :neutral:.

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Atlanta had the EXACT gameplan as in week 1, nothing different. Beat us with the same crossing routes, underneath passes and in our softzone. Every DB is 10 Yards of the receiver only able to catch up.

So horrible gameplanning!

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We had the most talented team in Saints history and will likely finish 6-10.

Its pretty obvious someone needs to be fired. We upgraded talent on a defense that finished 4th last year and this year we're near dead last in every relevant defensive category.

You fire everyone.

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Dennis Allen is available...

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We have to fire him. I can't see how we keep him.

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Who is out there? Who do you want to get?

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If we do change Tomsula would be my first choice but I dont think 49ers let him go.

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I had always wanted romeo, never wanted Rob, but after last season I ate Crow, but WTF happened?? I can't imagine in year 3 it goes back to what we had in year 1.

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My biggest worry id Allen gets the job. He shouldn't even be in the running for a DC job

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For me, I am always a fan of people who are successful in that position every where they go. I'd love to see Wade, but that's just me.

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Wade used to coach what team?

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One great year, one horrible year. If you look at his body of work including college he's good. I'd give him another year, try and get him some bodies that can push.

Replacing the DC every year is the worst option. They seldom get in the playoffs their first attempt, something like 20% chance on a new team. He was the exception last year. It comes down to what would you rather have, a 20% chance or, a higher chance with lessons learned and some new talent. I'll take the later. If that fails he's outta here.

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Williams is clearly better than RR. He did smoke and mirrors and susatined it. RR's D looked lost all year.

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plenty of talent should be out there if most of the rumors are true

lets see what black monday brings

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If they didn't want to play for him. I don't know if he was the problem. He just might be.