A win-win contract extension would make sense for Saints, Drew Brees

44Champs · 01-03-2015, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Before I would extend Brees I would fix the line and if that is the problem then go from there with possibly extending. At least this way you get an answer and at least have a great O-line for Brees or another qb.

Sounds good but can we do that without restructuring brees's contract? That's the $100 millon question.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-03-2015, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

Sounds good but can we do that without restructuring brees's contract? That's the $100 millon question.

It's a little frustrating to continue to see comments about Brees' contract amount. Take a look here:

Quarterback Contracts and Salaries | Over The Cap

Brees' contract isn't the top QB contract in any category. The guy played for the Saints for 6 years on a contract he probably outplayed in the first year and definitely after the SB year without complaint. In 2012 $100 was the going rate for top tier QBs and is actually a bargain now. Then the current contract was a 3 year cap friendly soft start.

So Brees isn't obligated to restructure. The Saints can of course cut him and free up $12 million in cap ($14 million in dead money as opposed to $26 million in cap). Note that according to the details of his contract:

Drew Brees Contract, Salary Cap Details & Breakdowns | Spotrac

Half of the $18 million salary becomes guaranteed. Likely this is on the 3rd day of the league year which is in the first week of February. That puts another $9 million on the cap that cannot be deferred.

Everyone has an agenda when it comes to contract time. It's now time for the Saints to pay the piper. That's the price of having by any measure an elite QB in the NFL.

SFIAH

44Champs · 01-03-2015, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

It's a little frustrating to continue to see comments about Brees' contract amount. Take a look here:

Quarterback Contracts and Salaries | Over The Cap

Brees' contract isn't the top QB contract in any category. The guy played for the Saints for 6 years on a contract he probably outplayed in the first year and definitely after the SB year without complaint. In 2012 $100 was the going rate for top tier QBs and is actually a bargain now. Then the current contract was a 3 year cap friendly soft start.

So Brees isn't obligated to restructure. The Saints can of course cut him and free up $12 million in cap ($14 million in dead money as opposed to $26 million in cap). Note that according to the details of his contract:

Drew Brees Contract, Salary Cap Details & Breakdowns | Spotrac

Half of the $18 million salary becomes guaranteed. Likely this is on the 3rd

SFIAH

Maybe so, but this still doesnt answer my question.

halloween 65 · 01-03-2015, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

Sounds good but can we do that without restructuring brees's contract? That's the $100 millon question.

I really figure we are going to have to do this in the draft where their rookie contracts are much cheaper. Our Tackles are good enough although Strief is getting up there in age but Armstead is good to go. We could go after 2 gaurds and go with Lelito between 2 young studs or keep Grubbs and go with a 1 stud C and 1 stud G in the draft. I love Evans but I do feel he's done. There are a few ways to build this line to be strong like we are use to seeing but it might get done in a year but with Grubbs contract being up next year I figure 2 years to be honest. It's a possibility Grubbs takes a paycut but he has played well so there is no gaurrantee he would. We do need at least 2 O-lineman drafted this year. Why the he!! Loomis and Payton have neglected drafting for the O-line I will never know. Brees contract doen't bother me as much as the Graham contract, we could be sitting good on the O-line with his money going into it and he is injury prone to boot. I think it was a terrible contract to begin with.

01-03-2015, 06:55 PM	#1
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: A win-win contract extension would make sense for Saints, Drew Brees Originally Posted by halloween 65 Before I would extend Brees I would fix the line and if that is the problem then go from there with possibly extending. At least this way you get an answer and at least have a great O-line for Brees or another qb. Sounds good but can we do that without restructuring brees's contract? That's the $100 millon question. jeanpierre and halloween 65 like this.
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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: A win-win contract extension would make sense for Saints, Drew Brees Originally Posted by 44Champs Sounds good but can we do that without restructuring brees's contract? That's the $100 millon question. It's a little frustrating to continue to see comments about Brees' contract amount. Take a look here: Quarterback Contracts and Salaries \| Over The Cap Brees' contract isn't the top QB contract in any category. The guy played for the Saints for 6 years on a contract he probably outplayed in the first year and definitely after the SB year without complaint. In 2012 $100 was the going rate for top tier QBs and is actually a bargain now. Then the current contract was a 3 year cap friendly soft start. So Brees isn't obligated to restructure. The Saints can of course cut him and free up $12 million in cap ($14 million in dead money as opposed to $26 million in cap). Note that according to the details of his contract: Drew Brees Contract, Salary Cap Details & Breakdowns \| Spotrac Half of the $18 million salary becomes guaranteed. Likely this is on the 3rd day of the league year which is in the first week of February. That puts another $9 million on the cap that cannot be deferred. Everyone has an agenda when it comes to contract time. It's now time for the Saints to pay the piper. That's the price of having by any measure an elite QB in the NFL. SFIAH captainshawn likes this.
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01-03-2015, 09:08 PM	#3
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: A win-win contract extension would make sense for Saints, Drew Brees Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL It's a little frustrating to continue to see comments about Brees' contract amount. Take a look here: Quarterback Contracts and Salaries \| Over The Cap Brees' contract isn't the top QB contract in any category. The guy played for the Saints for 6 years on a contract he probably outplayed in the first year and definitely after the SB year without complaint. In 2012 $100 was the going rate for top tier QBs and is actually a bargain now. Then the current contract was a 3 year cap friendly soft start. So Brees isn't obligated to restructure. The Saints can of course cut him and free up $12 million in cap ($14 million in dead money as opposed to $26 million in cap). Note that according to the details of his contract: Drew Brees Contract, Salary Cap Details & Breakdowns \| Spotrac Half of the $18 million salary becomes guaranteed. Likely this is on the 3rd SFIAH Maybe so, but this still doesnt answer my question.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: A win-win contract extension would make sense for Saints, Drew Brees Originally Posted by 44Champs Sounds good but can we do that without restructuring brees's contract? That's the $100 millon question. I really figure we are going to have to do this in the draft where their rookie contracts are much cheaper. Our Tackles are good enough although Strief is getting up there in age but Armstead is good to go. We could go after 2 gaurds and go with Lelito between 2 young studs or keep Grubbs and go with a 1 stud C and 1 stud G in the draft. I love Evans but I do feel he's done. There are a few ways to build this line to be strong like we are use to seeing but it might get done in a year but with Grubbs contract being up next year I figure 2 years to be honest. It's a possibility Grubbs takes a paycut but he has played well so there is no gaurrantee he would. We do need at least 2 O-lineman drafted this year. Why the he!! Loomis and Payton have neglected drafting for the O-line I will never know. Brees contract doen't bother me as much as the Graham contract, we could be sitting good on the O-line with his money going into it and he is injury prone to boot. I think it was a terrible contract to begin with.

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