Where Saints ranked in 2014: Offense was No. 1 in NFL -- but not really

hagan714 · 01-02-2015, 08:18 PM

get a few pieces up front solidify the pocket and those ints will drop back down.

pocket integrity has been shaky at best for the past few years. Drew has to be able to step up

Audiotom · 01-03-2015, 02:22 AM

When you cant get a first down with the game on the line to run out the clock in multiple games you are not a good offense

When you start too many games - three and out, three and out....

When everyone knows what play you are going to run by your formation and backfield personel...

When you try to do what worked for you in 2011...

When people who show promise - lelito and that rookie fb ride the pine instead of getting further opportunity to shine...

dizzle88 · 01-03-2015, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

What number?

He threw 3 total.

Not the stats you posted but the average points per game were higher, not only because of the pick 6's, but the other 14 ints he threw a number of them resulting in a very short field for the opposing team.

Foot Stomper · 01-03-2015, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

When you cant get a first down with the game on the line to run out the clock in multiple games you are not a good offense

When you start too many games - three and out, three and out....

When everyone knows what play you are going to run by your formation and backfield personel...

When you try to do what worked for you in 2011...

When people who show promise - lelito and that rookie fb ride the pine instead of getting further opportunity to shine...

Agree these are valid points. I recall similar frustrations, especially #2. It seemed we treated our first offensive possessions as throw aways.

Schmohams · 01-03-2015, 01:09 PM

The reason we aren't scoring like pre-2011 is because we aren't getting help from any other phase of the game. The Saints haven't scored a non-offensive TD since 2012.

xan · 01-03-2015, 04:24 PM

how much of the offense was garbage yards, after the game was no longer in doubt?

How much of the offense was generated in the 1st quarter? What was the End-of-Half success rate? the 2 minute offense success rate?

How about some real analysis?

Foot Stomper · 01-03-2015, 05:01 PM

If this were the Saints / Cardinals our Offense would have put up two 3 and outs or stalled drives by now. Not kidding...thats how I see the offense we have.

NOLA54 · 01-03-2015, 05:22 PM

Take a way half of those turnovers & we would be playing today instead of the panthers.

Danno · 01-03-2015, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by xan

how much of the offense was garbage yards, after the game was no longer in doubt?

Not many garbage yards at all, probably on par with every other team.

01-02-2015, 08:18 PM	#11
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Where Saints ranked in 2014: Offense was No. 1 in NFL -- but not really get a few pieces up front solidify the pocket and those ints will drop back down. pocket integrity has been shaky at best for the past few years. Drew has to be able to step up

01-03-2015, 02:22 AM	#12
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Where Saints ranked in 2014: Offense was No. 1 in NFL -- but not really When you cant get a first down with the game on the line to run out the clock in multiple games you are not a good offense When you start too many games - three and out, three and out.... When everyone knows what play you are going to run by your formation and backfield personel... When you try to do what worked for you in 2011... When people who show promise - lelito and that rookie fb ride the pine instead of getting further opportunity to shine... hagan714 and Foot Stomper like this.

01-03-2015, 05:10 AM	#13
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Where Saints ranked in 2014: Offense was No. 1 in NFL -- but not really Originally Posted by Danno What number? He threw 3 total. Not the stats you posted but the average points per game were higher, not only because of the pick 6's, but the other 14 ints he threw a number of them resulting in a very short field for the opposing team.

01-03-2015, 09:08 AM	#14
Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: Where Saints ranked in 2014: Offense was No. 1 in NFL -- but not really Originally Posted by Audiotom When you cant get a first down with the game on the line to run out the clock in multiple games you are not a good offense When you start too many games - three and out, three and out.... When everyone knows what play you are going to run by your formation and backfield personel... When you try to do what worked for you in 2011... When people who show promise - lelito and that rookie fb ride the pine instead of getting further opportunity to shine... Agree these are valid points. I recall similar frustrations, especially #2. It seemed we treated our first offensive possessions as throw aways. hagan714 likes this.

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Schmohams 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 551	Re: Where Saints ranked in 2014: Offense was No. 1 in NFL -- but not really The reason we aren't scoring like pre-2011 is because we aren't getting help from any other phase of the game. The Saints haven't scored a non-offensive TD since 2012. Danno and K Major like this.

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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Where Saints ranked in 2014: Offense was No. 1 in NFL -- but not really how much of the offense was garbage yards, after the game was no longer in doubt? How much of the offense was generated in the 1st quarter? What was the End-of-Half success rate? the 2 minute offense success rate? How about some real analysis?

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Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: Where Saints ranked in 2014: Offense was No. 1 in NFL -- but not really If this were the Saints / Cardinals our Offense would have put up two 3 and outs or stalled drives by now. Not kidding...thats how I see the offense we have.

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NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Where Saints ranked in 2014: Offense was No. 1 in NFL -- but not really Take a way half of those turnovers & we would be playing today instead of the panthers.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Where Saints ranked in 2014: Offense was No. 1 in NFL -- but not really Originally Posted by xan how much of the offense was garbage yards, after the game was no longer in doubt? Not many garbage yards at all, probably on par with every other team.

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