Saints fire 3 assistant coaches

Papa Voodoo · 01-02-2015, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Personnel decision making needs a hard look as well...

Still don't get why Joe Vitt Sr, Greg McMahon, Bret Ingalls, Bill Johnson, Frank Smith, Bryan Young have responsibilities with the team now...

I don't think blowing the whole thing up is going to work either. I think Vitt is solid and like JV said, he does a lot more for the team than coach LBs. Just like the defense, keep what can grow, cut the rest.

jeanpierre · 01-02-2015, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

I don't think blowing the whole thing up is going to work either. I think Vitt is solid and like JV said, he does a lot more for the team than coach LBs. Just like the defense, keep what can grow, cut the rest.

It's not about blowing it up for the sake of blowing it up...

Compartmentalize.

As I've posted ad nauseam, name one linebacker drafted, developed and starting by the New Orleans Saints as long as Joe Vitt has been that position's coach...

If you want to make him a quality assurance assistant head coach, fine - but get him the f**k away from the players, because he's awful...

And whether you're pro Ryan or anti Ryan, there's no question the guy calls up a high ratio of blitzes because the base defensive front is unable to generate a consistent, respectable pass rush against average NFL starters

And as that front has mailed it in this season, the coach, Bill Johnson has to answer for it - he's gotten too old and is just doing what he's done for 34 years and it's time he collect his retirement somewhere else...

You'll be hard-pressed to find many Saints fans who feel McMahon has had a positive, innovative impact on the special teams...

Maybe it was more of Evans and Strief getting older, more injury-proned and the departure of under-rated Center Brian de la Puente affecting that unit's chemistry...

Or maybe Aaron Kromer is better than we appreciated,either way the offensive line has totally underwhelmed and struggled mightily in both pass protection and banging it in the short yardage, goal line situations, Brett Ingalls has to go...

To get that nasty edge back, it'll take both younger players and a new offensive line coach like 49ers Mike Solari or OU's Bill Bedenbaugh who's shown excellent organizational and development skills in making the Sooner's offensive line among the elite units in their respective field...

lee909 · 01-03-2015, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

and the departure of under-rated Center Brian de la Puente...

He is a FA again this year,if we miss out on the draft it might be worth bringing him back

hagan714 · 01-03-2015, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

He is a FA again this year,if we miss out on the draft it might be worth bringing him back

say what????????????????????????????????????????????

lee909 · 01-03-2015, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

say what????????????????????????????????????????????

He only got a one year deal in Chicago for under 800k
Only played in 8 games so i cant see him staying,i rather get a younger guy in but if we miss out in the draft he could do a job

01-02-2015, 05:24 PM	#1
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Saints fire 3 assistant coaches Originally Posted by jeanpierre Personnel decision making needs a hard look as well... Still don't get why Joe Vitt Sr, Greg McMahon, Bret Ingalls, Bill Johnson, Frank Smith, Bryan Young have responsibilities with the team now... I don't think blowing the whole thing up is going to work either. I think Vitt is solid and like JV said, he does a lot more for the team than coach LBs. Just like the defense, keep what can grow, cut the rest.

01-02-2015, 10:51 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints fire 3 assistant coaches Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo I don't think blowing the whole thing up is going to work either. I think Vitt is solid and like JV said, he does a lot more for the team than coach LBs. Just like the defense, keep what can grow, cut the rest. It's not about blowing it up for the sake of blowing it up... Compartmentalize. As I've posted ad nauseam, name one linebacker drafted, developed and starting by the New Orleans Saints as long as Joe Vitt has been that position's coach... If you want to make him a quality assurance assistant head coach, fine - but get him the f**k away from the players, because he's awful... And whether you're pro Ryan or anti Ryan, there's no question the guy calls up a high ratio of blitzes because the base defensive front is unable to generate a consistent, respectable pass rush against average NFL starters And as that front has mailed it in this season, the coach, Bill Johnson has to answer for it - he's gotten too old and is just doing what he's done for 34 years and it's time he collect his retirement somewhere else... You'll be hard-pressed to find many Saints fans who feel McMahon has had a positive, innovative impact on the special teams... Maybe it was more of Evans and Strief getting older, more injury-proned and the departure of under-rated Center Brian de la Puente affecting that unit's chemistry... Or maybe Aaron Kromer is better than we appreciated,either way the offensive line has totally underwhelmed and struggled mightily in both pass protection and banging it in the short yardage, goal line situations, Brett Ingalls has to go... To get that nasty edge back, it'll take both younger players and a new offensive line coach like 49ers Mike Solari or OU's Bill Bedenbaugh who's shown excellent organizational and development skills in making the Sooner's offensive line among the elite units in their respective field... Foot Stomper likes this.
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01-03-2015, 12:48 AM	#3
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,860 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints fire 3 assistant coaches Originally Posted by jeanpierre and the departure of under-rated Center Brian de la Puente... He is a FA again this year,if we miss out on the draft it might be worth bringing him back

01-03-2015, 08:09 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints fire 3 assistant coaches Originally Posted by lee909 He is a FA again this year,if we miss out on the draft it might be worth bringing him back say what???????????????????????????????????????????? iceshack149 and brees84 like this.

01-03-2015, 08:13 AM	#5
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,860 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints fire 3 assistant coaches Originally Posted by hagan714 say what???????????????????????????????????????????? He only got a one year deal in Chicago for under 800k Only played in 8 games so i cant see him staying,i rather get a younger guy in but if we miss out in the draft he could do a job

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