Saints fire 3 assistant coaches

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The #Saints are parting ways with WR coach Henry Ellard and TE Terry Malone, source says. Offseason changes begin now, there will be others

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Danno · 01-02-2015, 03:19 PM

halloween 65 · 01-02-2015, 03:21 PM

I thought the TE coach did well enough to stay. Hill was come along nicely.

lee909 · 01-02-2015, 03:23 PM

I thought Ellard was highly regarded?
Maybe sick of the drops

Still same old issues on the lines and LBs though

|Mitch| · 01-02-2015, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Still same old issues on the lines and LBs though

Did you miss the part where Payton said more changes are coming?

Jack Vegas · 01-02-2015, 03:29 PM

Good I say. Other than Stills the receiver group has shown a real lack of focus and smarts on the field the last couple of years. Graham hasn't really become the polished TE that he could be.

More moves? I think Vitt sticks around for the long haul. He's too big a part of the organization and has much larger responsiblities than just being the LB coach. Bill Johnson is almost certainly gone and the DB coach is already gone.

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I thought the TE coach did well enough to stay. Hill was come along nicely.

I like Josh Hill a lot, but I wonder how much of his development has to do with Ben Watson and not the coaching. Graham is still a raw player after 5 years in the league. Considering the amount of money we've committed to him that's not a viable result.

halloween 65 · 01-02-2015, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Did you miss the part where Payton said more changes are coming?

I'll believe it more when Vitt gets his walking papers.

halloween 65 · 01-02-2015, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Good I say. Other than Stills the receiver group has shown a real lack of focus and smarts on the field the last couple of years. Graham hasn't really become the polished TE that he could be.

More moves? I think Vitt sticks around for the long haul. He's too big a part of the organization and has much larger responsiblities than just being the LB coach. Bill Johnson is almost certainly gone and the DB coach is already gone.

I like Josh Hill a lot, but I wonder how much of his development has to do with Ben Watson and not the coaching. Graham is still a raw player after 5 years in the league. Considering the amount of money we've committed to him that's not a viable result.

I agree with what you said about Hill, I also agree that Graham not being polished. I can't see why Vitt stays, to many better lb. coaches out there that can get much better results and Vitt is a joke at being the assistant head coach just look at results when Payton was suspended.

Jack Vegas · 01-02-2015, 04:07 PM

From reading between the lines over the years it seems like Vitt is a fairly important part of the structure as SP's right hand man or whatever you call it. I don't think he will be fired for that reason. But maybe they promote him upward to full-time asst. coach and hire somebody else just to focus on the LBs. FWIW, I don't think our LBs are coached poorly, they just lack footspeed.

jnormand · 01-02-2015, 04:16 PM

Well..looks like we are gonna see some new cogs. Fine with me. Everyone is on the chopping block.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints fire WR coach Henry Ellard and TE coach Terry Malone I thought the TE coach did well enough to stay. Hill was come along nicely. QBREES9 and MarchingOn like this.

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Saints fire WR coach Henry Ellard and TE coach Terry Malone Good I say. Other than Stills the receiver group has shown a real lack of focus and smarts on the field the last couple of years. Graham hasn't really become the polished TE that he could be. More moves? I think Vitt sticks around for the long haul. He's too big a part of the organization and has much larger responsiblities than just being the LB coach. Bill Johnson is almost certainly gone and the DB coach is already gone. Originally Posted by halloween 65 I thought the TE coach did well enough to stay. Hill was come along nicely. I like Josh Hill a lot, but I wonder how much of his development has to do with Ben Watson and not the coaching. Graham is still a raw player after 5 years in the league. Considering the amount of money we've committed to him that's not a viable result. Halo, saintsfan1976, Papa Voodoo and 6 others like this.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints fire WR coach Henry Ellard and TE coach Terry Malone Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Did you miss the part where Payton said more changes are coming? I'll believe it more when Vitt gets his walking papers. Rsanders24, K Major, MarchingOn and 1 others like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints fire WR coach Henry Ellard and TE coach Terry Malone Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Good I say. Other than Stills the receiver group has shown a real lack of focus and smarts on the field the last couple of years. Graham hasn't really become the polished TE that he could be. More moves? I think Vitt sticks around for the long haul. He's too big a part of the organization and has much larger responsiblities than just being the LB coach. Bill Johnson is almost certainly gone and the DB coach is already gone. I like Josh Hill a lot, but I wonder how much of his development has to do with Ben Watson and not the coaching. Graham is still a raw player after 5 years in the league. Considering the amount of money we've committed to him that's not a viable result. I agree with what you said about Hill, I also agree that Graham not being polished. I can't see why Vitt stays, to many better lb. coaches out there that can get much better results and Vitt is a joke at being the assistant head coach just look at results when Payton was suspended.

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Saints fire WR coach Henry Ellard and TE coach Terry Malone From reading between the lines over the years it seems like Vitt is a fairly important part of the structure as SP's right hand man or whatever you call it. I don't think he will be fired for that reason. But maybe they promote him upward to full-time asst. coach and hire somebody else just to focus on the LBs. FWIW, I don't think our LBs are coached poorly, they just lack footspeed.
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Saints fire WR coach Henry Ellard and TE coach Terry Malone Well..looks like we are gonna see some new cogs. Fine with me. Everyone is on the chopping block.

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