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|Mitch| 01-03-2015 01:24 PM

Re: Opinion: Brees hasn’t changed as much as many think
 
Here's just the records he set in 2014... Yep; he's done :rolleyes: Give the man a decent interior O-Line, will ya?!

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*Has passed for 56,033 yards in his career, the fourth-most all-time.

* Has passed for 43,685 yards since joining New Orleans in 2006 and became the seventh quarterback in NFL history with 40,000 passing yards with one franchise. Brees accomplished the feat in his 132nd game with the Saints, surpassing DAN MARINO (Miami, 153 games) as the fastest quarterback to reach 40,000 passing yards with one team.

*Tied for the league lead with 4,952 passing yards, the fifth time in his career leading the league in passing yards, tying Pro Football Hall of Famers SONNY JURGENSEN and DAN MARINO for the most all-time.

*Threw five touchdown passes without an interception in Week 13, his seventh career game with at least five touchdown passes and no interceptions, the most in NFL history.

*Brees (33) has thrown at least 30 touchdowns in each of the past seven seasons, extending his NFL record for the most consecutive such seasons.

Jack Vegas 01-03-2015 03:08 PM

Re: Opinion: Brees hasn’t changed as much as many think
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 635755)
If you watch with an honest eye, he's throwing more ducks and his downfield accuracy is no where near what it was three years ago...

Nobody argues that. However, the question is, is this the result of having the pocket pushed back in his face. I think it is. Brees is a rhythm QB, he needs to have all his fundamentals working to throw it well. When you can't step up in the pocket, set your feet and follow through on your throwing motion you're going to start throwing ducks and missing your target. You can go out in your backyard with a tennis ball and try it yourself.

Danno 01-03-2015 03:12 PM

Re: Opinion: Brees hasn’t changed as much as many think
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 635822)
Fixing the line fixes Drew.

And catapults our putrid top 5 offense into the top 2 or 3.:p

Jack Vegas 01-03-2015 03:28 PM

Re: Opinion: Brees hasn’t changed as much as many think
 
The weird thing is the line got bad really fast. Evans and Grubbs are both getting older, but they're not that old. We should be open to the idea that this was just a one-off bad year and they'll be fine next season. No way to know for sure right now.

Danno 01-03-2015 03:36 PM

Re: Opinion: Brees hasn’t changed as much as many think
 
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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 635856)
The weird thing is the line got bad really fast. Evans and Grubbs are both getting older, but they're not that old. We should be open to the idea that this was just a one-off bad year and they'll be fine next season. No way to know for sure right now.



Agreed sort of, it got mediocre real fast, but not bad. They were still a top 10 O-line. But our 6'-0 Brees needs interior excellence more than most taller QB's. Grubbs and Evans became average, and Drew can't step up in the pocket like he used to.

With Brees, I prefer top talent at OG and OC over OT.

Stud interior with decent OT's is his recipe for success.

Saintaintso 01-03-2015 03:57 PM

Re: Opinion: Brees hasn’t changed as much as many think
 
We need to bolster and draft O Line. Perhaps taking a&ms left tackle and moving Armstead being how freakishly athletic he is. He'd make a hell of a center , guard or anything else.

Danno 01-03-2015 05:24 PM

Re: Opinion: Brees hasn’t changed as much as many think
 
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Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 635861)
We need to bolster and draft O Line. Perhaps taking a&ms left tackle and moving Armstead being how freakishly athletic he is. He'd make a hell of a center , guard or anything else.

Armstead is a pure LT. Anything else is square peg and round hole.

halloween 65 01-03-2015 06:43 PM

Re: Opinion: Brees hasn’t changed as much as many think
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 635857)
Agreed sort of, it got mediocre real fast, but not bad. They were still a top 10 O-line. But our 6'-0 Brees needs interior excellence more than most taller QB's. Grubbs and Evans became average, and Drew can't step up in the pocket like he used to.

With Brees, I prefer top talent at OG and OC over OT.

Stud interior with decent OT's is his recipe for success.

I agree. A stud at C with studs at OG is exactly right. I'm not sold on Lelito a stud C, he might look better with 2 stud G on each side of him.


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