Bears name Ryan Pace new GM

01-09-2015, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Who's to say that the cheap talent would fumble any less?

That's a circular argument that's not worth discussing to me. There are a load of available vet RBs in FA this year who will come cheap and don't have a fumbling issue.

blackangold · 01-09-2015, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

I did NOT start this conversation that way, but you seemed determine to head down that road with your absolutely ridiculous strawman scenarios and outright fabrications. Maybe you are the one who should take a good hard look at yourself and realize that your "opinions" aren't all they are cracked up to be.

Here is you starting the conversation 'that' way:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Seems every post you make is borderline ridiculous, if not outright ridiculous. I would say Cadet's success rate on the field far outstrips your own on the message board. Maybe you should cut yourself.

Please provide me an example of my "strawman scenario"or "outright fabrication".

halloween 65 · 01-09-2015, 05:01 PM

I'm not a big Cadet fan one of the main reasons is as long as he has been here he's unable to crack the starting lineup and about the only time he gets in with the O in games it's basically trash time. As far as ST goes I have never heard his name other than him recieving the ball and getting about 10 maybe 15 yrds. As long as he has been here knowing the system and what he has contributed he can be replaced fairly easily for more than likely the same amount of money. Although he is built like a thumper-type of back he seems to get tackled easily by arm tackles that says alot, no vision is another problem.

Danno · 01-09-2015, 06:15 PM

We have about 8-10 players who desperately need to upgraded, Travaris Cadet ain't one of them.

brees84 · 01-09-2015, 07:41 PM

His running style is frustrating and ineffective. 4th RB shouldn't be on game day roster. Cadet type of player can be easily stashed on PS or you can find them as FA.

WillSaints81 · 01-11-2015, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

I don't think anybody is here trying to sing Cadet's praises as a great player, but at the very least he's a pretty solid kick returner (26.6 ypa career average) who can fill in at the PT pass-catching role and makes a very small salary. Those are the kinds of guys you need to fill out the bottom of a roster.

I don't think these guys are that hard to find and if someone knows how to draft top round talent they will probably be better at finding UDFAs as well. We are not the only team with good UDFAs if you can call it that. I guess yes we need people like Cadet in case of injury but he has not helped us enough when our starters were hurt. And I think its not the talent it just may be how the saints have used the players. Ivory is a joke at NY.

01-09-2015, 04:35 PM	#51
Threaded by blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Who's to say that the cheap talent would fumble any less? That's a circular argument that's not worth discussing to me. There are a load of available vet RBs in FA this year who will come cheap and don't have a fumbling issue.
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01-09-2015, 04:49 PM	#52
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Bears name Ryan Pace new GM Originally Posted by Jack Vegas I did NOT start this conversation that way, but you seemed determine to head down that road with your absolutely ridiculous strawman scenarios and outright fabrications. Maybe you are the one who should take a good hard look at yourself and realize that your "opinions" aren't all they are cracked up to be. Here is you starting the conversation 'that' way: Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Seems every post you make is borderline ridiculous, if not outright ridiculous. I would say Cadet's success rate on the field far outstrips your own on the message board. Maybe you should cut yourself. Please provide me an example of my "strawman scenario"or "outright fabrication".

01-09-2015, 05:01 PM	#53
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Bears name Ryan Pace new GM I'm not a big Cadet fan one of the main reasons is as long as he has been here he's unable to crack the starting lineup and about the only time he gets in with the O in games it's basically trash time. As far as ST goes I have never heard his name other than him recieving the ball and getting about 10 maybe 15 yrds. As long as he has been here knowing the system and what he has contributed he can be replaced fairly easily for more than likely the same amount of money. Although he is built like a thumper-type of back he seems to get tackled easily by arm tackles that says alot, no vision is another problem.

01-09-2015, 06:15 PM	#54
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Bears name Ryan Pace new GM We have about 8-10 players who desperately need to upgraded, Travaris Cadet ain't one of them.

01-09-2015, 07:41 PM	#55
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Bears name Ryan Pace new GM His running style is frustrating and ineffective. 4th RB shouldn't be on game day roster. Cadet type of player can be easily stashed on PS or you can find them as FA.
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01-11-2015, 12:12 AM	#56
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Bears name Ryan Pace new GM Originally Posted by Jack Vegas I don't think anybody is here trying to sing Cadet's praises as a great player, but at the very least he's a pretty solid kick returner (26.6 ypa career average) who can fill in at the PT pass-catching role and makes a very small salary. Those are the kinds of guys you need to fill out the bottom of a roster. I don't think these guys are that hard to find and if someone knows how to draft top round talent they will probably be better at finding UDFAs as well. We are not the only team with good UDFAs if you can call it that. I guess yes we need people like Cadet in case of injury but he has not helped us enough when our starters were hurt. And I think its not the talent it just may be how the saints have used the players. Ivory is a joke at NY.

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