PFF 2015 free agents

sfruge26 · 01-31-2015, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Three free agents who'd have the greatest impact on the Saints

C Stefen Wisniewski - Hudson of KC may have a better rating, but this guy has no one around him and he's played guard...

G Clint Boling - he's had a small sampling, but he performed well against some good AFC North D-Linemen

NT Terrence Cody - still believe Jenkins will be fine once he heals, but this would be an excellent young guy to have that position young and always fresh to disrupt the middle...

Also, wouldn't mind vetting out RB Darren McFadden...

What is people's infatuation with Terrence Cody? Is it the name recognition or the Alabama ties? It sure as hell isn't based on merit. The dude played like 6-7 snaps ALL SEASON last year. He had one decent year in 2011 and has done next to nothing since. This is back when he was actually seeing action and at his "playing weight"...

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jeanpierre · 01-31-2015, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

I was and assuming he doesn't end up on IR each year am happy with the signing of Byrd last year. It was a ....fest all over the field last year but get him a good SS to play with a let Vaccaro roam the field and we will be fine next year. I would have rather signed Alex Mack if we could have tempted him though

Well, we can rectify that with either:

Stefen Wisniewski, C, 26 years
Rodney Hudson, C, 26 years

You know, with regards to Vaccaro, really thought of him as more of a free safety in the NFL, patrolling the mid-field; that's yet another reason I didn't like committing money to Byrd...

Originally Posted by sfruge26

What is people's infatuation with Terrence Cody?

Well, it's more affordability...he did have success at one time, if I had my choice, I'd go get Pot Roast...

Terrance Knighton, NT, 29 years

I mean, you can't geaux wrong with Pot Roast...

saintsfan1976 · 01-31-2015, 09:50 AM

Read somewhere that a solid defense is built in a straight line.

NT - LB - S

What's missing here?

hagan714 · 01-31-2015, 10:29 AM

Terrance Knighton, NT, i think we missed the band wagon on this guy. should have gone after him when he and jack ran off to denver.

now he will be looking for the huge pay day and bring to town a hige weight issue problem? nope missed the boot on him IMO

I will take these two over Terrance for cap reasons and improved play over the past few years.

NT
Dan Williams, NT, Cardinals. Age: 28
Kenrick Ellis, NT, Jets. Age: 27.

ILB
Mason Foster, ILB, Buccaneers. Age: 26
Light comes on in 2015 gamble signing

Bruce Carter, OLB, Cowboys. Age: 27.
for the love of god put him back at ILB in 34 already

which from the cowboys scrape heap do you want? there are a few.

jeanpierre · 02-01-2015, 09:39 AM

Like the Cardinals' Dan Williams as well, but he doesn't control the point on passing plays as well as on run plays...

J-E-T-S' Ellis is great, but isn't he a restricted free agent?!?

K Major · 02-01-2015, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Bruce Carter, OLB, Cowboys. Age: 27.
for the love of god put him back at ILB in 34 already

which from the cowboys scrape heap do you want? there are a few.

Bruce has his moments but takes off too many plays for me.

Since you speak of the Cows, here is one for you Hagin ... Sean Lee.

Edit: Sean is not a UFA however Rolando McClain is. He has great size, speed and arrives with bad intentions.

Thoughts on McClain?

FinSaint · 02-01-2015, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Terrance Knighton, NT, 29 years

I mean, you can't geaux wrong with Pot Roast...

I was beating the drum about this guy when he was available after leaving JAX, but many referred to his weight issues and lack of effort as a reason to disregard him.

Man, I wish the Saints had signed him then, much like I had hoped they would sign Canty before he went to Baltimore.

jeanpierre · 02-01-2015, 02:28 PM

I think the priorities in Free Agency have to be two new interior offensive linemen that are still young, entering their primes...

Should cap space be created that wouldn't further worsen the eventual cap doomesday we're facing, then a nose tackle to rotate with Jenkins or a space gobbling/ multi-blocker occupying defense end (i.e. Wilks, Geathers) ro allow Hicks to slide to the nose tackle rotation would be the next priority...

Know the inclination for many is another cornerback, but look, as pathetic as some of those 3rd and long plays that broke our backs was, c'mon, there was waaaay too much time for opposing quarterbacks on those plays...

hagan714 · 02-01-2015, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Like the Cardinals' Dan Williams as well, but he doesn't control the point on passing plays as well as on run plays...

J-E-T-S' Ellis is great, but isn't he a restricted free agent?!?

nope UFA

neither is huge in pass rush but against the run they are solid

lee909 · 02-02-2015, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I think the priorities in Free Agency have to be two new interior offensive linemen that are still young, entering their primes...

Should cap space be created that wouldn't further worsen the eventual cap doomesday we're facing,

Not sure the cap is quite that bad
Most of the big earners are at a point of being cutable next year and Brees contract will be off the books a couple of years later. Its going to hurt and will probably mean a year or two of struggle but i dont thinks its the end. Well not unless Loomis,Payton call a end to there stay aswell then its all up in the air for a rebuild.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Know the inclination for many is another cornerback, but look, as pathetic as some of those 3rd and long plays that broke our backs was, c'mon, there was waaaay too much time for opposing quarterbacks on those plays...

Agree on this,at times ladt year we could have had Revis,Sherman and Chancellor back there and still be cut apart. Need pressure

01-31-2015, 06:34 AM	#21
sfruge26 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 16	Re: PFF 2015 free agnets Originally Posted by jeanpierre Three free agents who'd have the greatest impact on the Saints C Stefen Wisniewski - Hudson of KC may have a better rating, but this guy has no one around him and he's played guard... G Clint Boling - he's had a small sampling, but he performed well against some good AFC North D-Linemen NT Terrence Cody - still believe Jenkins will be fine once he heals, but this would be an excellent young guy to have that position young and always fresh to disrupt the middle... Also, wouldn't mind vetting out RB Darren McFadden... What is people's infatuation with Terrence Cody? Is it the name recognition or the Alabama ties? It sure as hell isn't based on merit. The dude played like 6-7 snaps ALL SEASON last year. He had one decent year in 2011 and has done next to nothing since. This is back when he was actually seeing action and at his "playing weight"...
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01-31-2015, 06:54 AM	#22
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: PFF 2015 free agents Originally Posted by lee909 I was and assuming he doesn't end up on IR each year am happy with the signing of Byrd last year. It was a ....fest all over the field last year but get him a good SS to play with a let Vaccaro roam the field and we will be fine next year. I would have rather signed Alex Mack if we could have tempted him though Well, we can rectify that with either: Stefen Wisniewski, C, 26 years Rodney Hudson, C, 26 years You know, with regards to Vaccaro, really thought of him as more of a free safety in the NFL, patrolling the mid-field; that's yet another reason I didn't like committing money to Byrd... Originally Posted by sfruge26 What is people's infatuation with Terrence Cody? Well, it's more affordability...he did have success at one time, if I had my choice, I'd go get Pot Roast... Terrance Knighton, NT, 29 years I mean, you can't geaux wrong with Pot Roast...
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01-31-2015, 09:50 AM	#23
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF 2015 free agents Read somewhere that a solid defense is built in a straight line. NT - LB - S What's missing here? jeanpierre, blackangold and MarchingOn like this.

01-31-2015, 10:29 AM	#24
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: PFF 2015 free agents Terrance Knighton, NT, i think we missed the band wagon on this guy. should have gone after him when he and jack ran off to denver. now he will be looking for the huge pay day and bring to town a hige weight issue problem? nope missed the boot on him IMO I will take these two over Terrance for cap reasons and improved play over the past few years. NT Dan Williams, NT, Cardinals. Age: 28 Kenrick Ellis, NT, Jets. Age: 27. ILB Mason Foster, ILB, Buccaneers. Age: 26 Light comes on in 2015 gamble signing Bruce Carter, OLB, Cowboys. Age: 27. for the love of god put him back at ILB in 34 already which from the cowboys scrape heap do you want? there are a few. brees84 likes this.
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02-01-2015, 09:39 AM	#25
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: PFF 2015 free agents Like the Cardinals' Dan Williams as well, but he doesn't control the point on passing plays as well as on run plays... J-E-T-S' Ellis is great, but isn't he a restricted free agent?!?

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF 2015 free agents Originally Posted by hagan714 Bruce Carter, OLB, Cowboys. Age: 27. for the love of god put him back at ILB in 34 already which from the cowboys scrape heap do you want? there are a few. Bruce has his moments but takes off too many plays for me. Since you speak of the Cows, here is one for you Hagin ... Sean Lee. Edit: Sean is not a UFA however Rolando McClain is. He has great size, speed and arrives with bad intentions. Thoughts on McClain? hagan714, jeanpierre and MarchingOn like this.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: PFF 2015 free agents Originally Posted by jeanpierre Terrance Knighton, NT, 29 years I mean, you can't geaux wrong with Pot Roast... I was beating the drum about this guy when he was available after leaving JAX, but many referred to his weight issues and lack of effort as a reason to disregard him. Man, I wish the Saints had signed him then, much like I had hoped they would sign Canty before he went to Baltimore. hagan714 and jeanpierre like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: PFF 2015 free agents I think the priorities in Free Agency have to be two new interior offensive linemen that are still young, entering their primes... Should cap space be created that wouldn't further worsen the eventual cap doomesday we're facing, then a nose tackle to rotate with Jenkins or a space gobbling/ multi-blocker occupying defense end (i.e. Wilks, Geathers) ro allow Hicks to slide to the nose tackle rotation would be the next priority... Know the inclination for many is another cornerback, but look, as pathetic as some of those 3rd and long plays that broke our backs was, c'mon, there was waaaay too much time for opposing quarterbacks on those plays... lee909 and K Major like this.
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02-01-2015, 02:37 PM	#29
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: PFF 2015 free agents Originally Posted by jeanpierre Like the Cardinals' Dan Williams as well, but he doesn't control the point on passing plays as well as on run plays... J-E-T-S' Ellis is great, but isn't he a restricted free agent?!? nope UFA neither is huge in pass rush but against the run they are solid

02-02-2015, 02:26 AM	#30
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: PFF 2015 free agents Originally Posted by jeanpierre I think the priorities in Free Agency have to be two new interior offensive linemen that are still young, entering their primes... Should cap space be created that wouldn't further worsen the eventual cap doomesday we're facing, Not sure the cap is quite that bad Most of the big earners are at a point of being cutable next year and Brees contract will be off the books a couple of years later. Its going to hurt and will probably mean a year or two of struggle but i dont thinks its the end. Well not unless Loomis,Payton call a end to there stay aswell then its all up in the air for a rebuild. Originally Posted by jeanpierre Know the inclination for many is another cornerback, but look, as pathetic as some of those 3rd and long plays that broke our backs was, c'mon, there was waaaay too much time for opposing quarterbacks on those plays... Agree on this,at times ladt year we could have had Revis,Sherman and Chancellor back there and still be cut apart. Need pressure
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