PFF 2015 free agents

blackangold · 04-18-2015, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Here's one example for you. A random PFF ranking list from the 2013 season.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...top-to-bottom/

You can go on and on about raw stats and all of that... I know that stats don't tell the whole story, I'm not some football noob. I know if a guy has 100 plus tackles that doesn't tell the story of how many of them are just garbage -pile on at the end of the play- assisted tackles, and it also doesn't tell of missed tackles. I can tell that with my own eyes. Everyone can. Vinny Testeverde is one of the all time leaders in passing yards, but won't ever be a Hall of Famer because people who watched him know that he was just a compiler. He was average at best.

That list above that I gave has some really egregious rankings. Colston makes the list, but no Dez Bryant, as a commenter on the page points out, and Tom Brady (who I hate giving credit, but c'mon) is 90th on that list behind the likes of Drew Brees and Philip Rivers at his own position... neither of those guys have been near the same players the past couple years. Josh Gordon, who blew away the NFL in the 14 games he played that year ranks 74th?

And I'm constantly hearing about how Strief supposedly ranks in the top end of his position, when anyone who has watched him play knows that our tackles are always causing drew to run for his life. Does PFF take into account the amount of sacks he's saved them? You'd think that would be a pretty easy thing to grade, but their rankings don't seem to reflect it.

You completely contradict yourself here. First paragraph you state stats don't tell the whole story, but you point out guys that "blew the league away" not ranking higher than others?

PFF is not a stats based rating site. Three different people watch every game and every player's movement, then they give them a positive, neutral or negative rating on each play.

I can tell by your assertions that you clearly didn't read this in it's entirety: https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/grading/

The answer to your last sentence in your last paragraph is in the page I linked and it's your choice not to educate yourself.

04-18-2015, 11:50 PM	#11
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: PFF 2015 free agents Originally Posted by burningmetal Here's one example for you. A random PFF ranking list from the 2013 season. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...top-to-bottom/ You can go on and on about raw stats and all of that... I know that stats don't tell the whole story, I'm not some football noob. I know if a guy has 100 plus tackles that doesn't tell the story of how many of them are just garbage -pile on at the end of the play- assisted tackles, and it also doesn't tell of missed tackles. I can tell that with my own eyes. Everyone can. Vinny Testeverde is one of the all time leaders in passing yards, but won't ever be a Hall of Famer because people who watched him know that he was just a compiler. He was average at best. That list above that I gave has some really egregious rankings. Colston makes the list, but no Dez Bryant, as a commenter on the page points out, and Tom Brady (who I hate giving credit, but c'mon) is 90th on that list behind the likes of Drew Brees and Philip Rivers at his own position... neither of those guys have been near the same players the past couple years. Josh Gordon, who blew away the NFL in the 14 games he played that year ranks 74th? And I'm constantly hearing about how Strief supposedly ranks in the top end of his position, when anyone who has watched him play knows that our tackles are always causing drew to run for his life. Does PFF take into account the amount of sacks he's saved them? You'd think that would be a pretty easy thing to grade, but their rankings don't seem to reflect it. You completely contradict yourself here. First paragraph you state stats don't tell the whole story, but you point out guys that "blew the league away" not ranking higher than others? PFF is not a stats based rating site. Three different people watch every game and every player's movement, then they give them a positive, neutral or negative rating on each play. I can tell by your assertions that you clearly didn't read this in it's entirety: https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/grading/ The answer to your last sentence in your last paragraph is in the page I linked and it's your choice not to educate yourself.