Dennis Allen Rejoins Saints
 

Dennis Allen joins Saints’ staff

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 20, 2015, 7:06 AM EST Dennis Allen, who was fired after four games as the Raiders’ head coach last year, has found a new job.

Allen will join the Saints’ staff, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.

This will be Allen’s second stint as a Saints assistant. He was previously on the Saints’ staff from 2006 to 2010, first coaching the defensive line and then coaching the secondary. Allen will now have to mesh with Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, who wasn’t there during Allen’s previous tenure with the Saints.

Dennis Allen hired by New Orleans Saints as defensive assistant - ESPN

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yes finally some old blood back in the building and changes we were promised are starting to happen. keep'em coming

do not look now but if rob screws the pooch again in 2015 i see his mid season replacement has just been hired.

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Solid move.

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Wonder who is getting let go.

Big step down for Allen though, goes from HC to a position coach...

Good move for the Saints, now let's see who walks.

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I was thinking the same thing. I wonder how he would do as DC.

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I don't quite get the love for Allen but it couldn't hurt to have a little extra help with the coaching on the defensive side of the ball.

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What position is he coaching?

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"a senior defensive role"
I assume he'll have a big say in everything, with focus on DB's?

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YES!

After a string of losses, it's nice to have a gain!

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Here's a list of the Raiders' unrestricted and restricted free agents:

Unrestricted:

Larry Asante, safety
David Ausberry, tight end
Tarell Brown, cornerback
Vincent Brown, receiver
Darren McFadden, running back
Denarius Moore, receiver
Carlos Rogers, cornerback
Pat Sims, defensive tackle
C.J. Wilson, defensive tackle
Stefen Wisniewski, center
Charles Woodson, saferty

Restricted:

Chimdi Chekwa, cornerback
Andre Holmes, receiver
Marquette King, punter
Brandian Ross, safety
Kory Sheets, fullback
Rod Streater, receiver

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Priority #1 - fix the secondary.


Add a FA CB who can start day one!

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Wow...

Just shows that Payton/Loomis won't be replacing any of the dead weight on the staff... shame.

We have 5 different DCs in the last 10 years but the position coaches don't change, so our defense will continue to be a bottom feeder.

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Why do you assume that?

Didn't you also assume nothing would be done on defense before we hired Dennis Allen?

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If the Big Lebowski (Rob Ryan) has another blunder of a season, Allen gets the promotion to DC position next year.

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Also, Schefty is reporting through the ole Tweeter feed that former GM Jeff Ireland will take over college scouting.

I think the Dennis Allen hire is a safety net for if Ryan has another terrible season. The Saints will then promote Allen to DC. Just a hunch though. Nothing to back that up.

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Unsure about Fisher,Dolphins draft picks sketchy under him

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Just stating observations Danno.

Allen was hired to put pressure on Rob Ryan, not to replace any position coaches (Not my words, just restating what the NOLA article says).

To me that means we will have yet another DC with the same staff under him and expect different results...

There is no way you can justify having the same positional coaching staff for 10 years but going through 6 DC in that time due to poor performance.

Allen's hire to this position tells me (my opinion) that they are putting more pressure on Rob and refuse to give him the help he really needs-- new position coaches. Our defense will continue to be inconsistent as long as Vitt and Johnson are around.

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Well there is 6 secondary players on that Raider list he is coming from

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Rob Ryan must be ecstatic. lol

I start to feel sorry for the big guy.

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I hope that Ireland's interview technique improved. Guy asked Dez Bryant if his mother was a whore.

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Jeff Ireland was one of the worst GM's in the league... I get that he has ties to Sean Payton but that's a tough hire to feel good about.

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Why wouldn't you be excited? We added another proven, trusted mind to the coaching staff.

Look at teams like New England and Baltimore and Seattle who have former HC's and proven coaches. We need that.

Besides, we've lost a LOT of talent to other teams over the years.

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He's not a proven, trusted mind... He was awful at his job and was a joke around the league.

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Dolphins draft history:

2013

1 3 Dion Jordan DE Oregon
2 54 Jamar Taylor CB Boise State
3 77 Dallas Thomas OT Tennessee
3 93 Will Davis CB Utah State
4 104 Jelani Jenkins LB Florida
4 106 Dion Sims TE Michigan State
5 164 Mike Gillislee RB Florida
5 166 Caleb Sturgis K Florida
7 250 Don Jones SS Arkansas State

2012

1 8 Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M
2 42 Jonathan Martin T Stanford
3 72 Olivier Vernon DE Miami (Fla.)
3 78 Michael Egnew TE Missouri
4 97 Lamar Miller RB Miami (Fla.)
5 155 Josh Kaddu LB Oregon
6 183 B.J. Cunningham WR Michigan State
7 215 Kheeston Randall DT Texas
7 227 Rishard Matthews WR Nevada-Reno

2011

1 15 Mike Pouncey C Florida
2 62 Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State
4 111 Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
6 174 Charles Clay RB Tulsa
7 231 Frank Kearse DT Alabama A&M
7 235 Jimmy Wilson DB Montana

2010

1 28 Jared Odrick DE Penn State
2 40 Koa Misi OLB Utah
3 73 John Jerry G Mississippi
4 119 A.J. Edds LB Iowa
5 145 Nolan Carroll CB Maryland
5 163 Reshad Jones FS Georgia
7 212 Chris McCoy LB Middle Tennessee State
7 252 Austin Spitler LB Ohio State

2009

1 25 Vontae Davis DB Illinois
2 44 Pat White QB West Virginia
2 61 Sean Smith DB Utah
3 87 Patrick Turner WR USC
4 108 Brian Hartline WR Ohio State
5 161 John Nalbone TE Monmouth (N.J.)
5 165 Chris Clemons DB Clemson
6 181 Andrew Gardner T Georgia Tech
7 214 J.D. Folsom LB Weber State

2008

1 1 Jake Long T Michigan
2 32 Phillip Merling DE Clemson
2 57 Chad Henne QB Michigan
3 66 Kendall Langford DE Hampton
4 110 Shawn Murphy G Utah State
6 176 Jalen Parmele RB Toledo
6 195 Donald Thomas G Connecticut
6 204 Lex Hilliard RB Montana
7 245 Lionel Dotson DE Arizona

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Payton loves to bring his buddies in regardless of talent, we should be well aware of this by now.

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Well to be fair, we need to look at the drafts of the KC Chiefs from 1997-2000 as he was in the same position then as the Saints are looking to hire him in now.

2000
1.21 WR Sylvester Morris
2.23 DB William Bartee
3.23 DB Greg Wesley
4.21 RB Frank Moreau
5.24 WR Dante' Hall
5.33 DB Pat Dennis
6.22 OL Darnell Alford
7.02 WR Desmond Kitchings

1999
2.23 RB Mike Cloud
4.13 WR Larry Parker

1998
3.27 RB Rashaan Shehee
4.28 LB Greg Favors
5.05 DB Robert Williams
6.28 DL Derrick Ransom
7.27 DB Eric Warfield

1997
1.13 TE Tony Gonzalez
2.17 WR Kevin Lockett
4.14 QB Pat Barnes
5.33 RB June Henley
6.32 WR Isaac Byrd

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Well if Rob has a bad season Allen can blame him. If Allen takes over and has a bad season, who do you blame? Payton? 2 more bad seasons and Brees window is done.2 more bad seasons Payton is done. Maybe 2 more seasons Vitt retires because no other team would hire his sorry a$$ and Johnson follows in his footsteps. 6 DC's in 10 years that is truely amazing without position coach changes. Vitt and Johnson must be keeping some deep dark secrets to keep their jobs.

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I'm talking about Dennis Allen, not Mr. Ireland.

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When I read that we hired Ireland I was excited about it......not so much after a little research. However, Ireland is supposed to have an eye for talent.

I don't care that they didn't succeed in upper management. They are back to doing what they do well. They both had success doing the job that got them noticed around the NFL. Which is why someone else wanted them and gave them a chance.

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Welcome HOME!!!!!! Dennis. We missed you.

NEW ORLEANS: REPORTS: Saints add Dennis Allen to coaching staff as senior defensive assistant | New Orleans Saints | The Sun Herald

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Miami was always an elite qb and decent rb away from being a contending team. Ireland could not scout offense but we really don't need him for much of that. Defense he is good at. Miami has had a good secondary that just has not been well coached at times or play on a team they feel confident in. Also SL stadium is not a great place to play and the dolphins struggled at home but on the road they knew how to play, they even gave Denver problems this past season. Of coure Ireland was no longer with them but those were his player mostly.

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On second thought I hope we do not hire him or people need to protest outside saints HQs to get Loomis out. On the variety board, we're already getting ridiculed for this hiring.

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Agree with 2nd but not the 1st statement.

Priority 1: fix the run defense? If that's the objective, then the means: draft or FA for some LBs and/or another NT/DL

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They were listening to us.

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Yes, and a veteran/line-calling Center I've heard some of us discuss even before this move

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Why do you care what other people think?

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People "*****" for change and then when they start happening, they complain even more...

:rolleyes:

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Priority 1: a pocket for Drew to sit back in have a lunch and survey the field with out anyone getting a hand on him.

after that go defense all you want

defense is not going to win us anything! make it serviceable and let Drew do the rest

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The second solves the first.

Not having a quality starting CB killed us from day one. That and injuries.