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WhoDat!656 01-22-2015 05:40 PM

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"some thing smells fishy here between these two woman."

hagan714 01-22-2015 05:45 PM

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no one fears a saints move? a woman with no training taking over the club?

i fear the worse in this one.

so i am bit concern by the overall attitude about this.

seen it happen before. one court case with all the promises in the world to stay and with in three years the Minnesota North stars were split in two. one brother started the Dallas Stars. The other brother started san jose sharks.

nothing the fans could do to stop it. no money and no court could not stop it.

I still have "F" Norm Green T shirt. I wear anytime i go through Dallas still

be concerned very concerned

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Beastmode 01-22-2015 05:51 PM

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Rita has been working for the Saints since H.S. She knows the business. She's lacking the formal schooling but she learned it through many years of OJT. She is capable.

Her demeanor on the other hand, a documented rift in the organization is what brought it to this impasse. This is shaping into a feud between women more than one between a father and daughter. Benson already stated family members would be taken care of so it's not about money. This is a power grab for all the loot. The wife wants it. Rita wants it. Benson's loyalty is to his wife. That's how I see it. Benson has more children but their names are not even in the mix and Rita was I believe adopted. His loyalty is to his wife and that's a tough pill to swallow for her, having put in a lot of work for the team and business during some very rough years.

Halo 01-22-2015 05:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 638369)
no one fears a saints move? a woman with no training taking over the club?

i fear the worse in this one.

so i am bit concern by the overall attitude about this.

seen it happen before. one court case with all the promises in the world to stay and with in three years the Minnesota North stars were split in two. one brother started the Dallas Stars. The other brother started san jose sharks.

nothing the fans could do to stop it. no money and no court could not stop it.

I still have "F" Norm Green T shirt. I wear anytime i go through Dallas still

be concerned very concerned

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Could be worse. We could have Inspector Clouseau as the owner like the Rams have....
http://i.imgur.com/wKu1j4G.jpg

http://fatherhoodfactor.com/wp-conte...r-sellers1.jpg

hagan714 01-22-2015 05:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 638370)
Rita has been working for the Saints since H.S. She knows the business. She's lacking the formal schooling but she learned it through many years of OJT. She is capable.

Her demeanor on the other hand
, a documented rift in the organization is what brought it to this impasse. This is shaping into a feud between women more than one between a father and daughter. Benson already stated family members would be taken care of so it's not about money. This is a power grab for all the loot. The wife wants it. Rita wants it. Benson's loyalty is to his wife. That's how I see it.

see demeanor is what is key. blanket statements need to be explained.

rift is what.

she wants an inexperienced person to keep their nose out of the saints?

Rita is drinking on the job and totally out of hand?

one hates the city and the other likes it?

this is what i hope gets cleared up because so far all i hear is gossip and assumptions.

Inspector Clouseau :smokin: is probably the only one that could stumble through this mess and find the truth

Beastmode 01-22-2015 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 638372)
see demeanor is what is key. blanket statements need to be explained.

rift is what.

she wants an inexperienced person to keep their nose out of the saints?

Rita is drinking on the job and totally out of hand?

one hates the city and the other likes it?

this is what i hope gets cleared up because so far all i hear is gossip and assumptions

I'm script writing here. This is candy for the trailer!

Halo 01-22-2015 06:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 638373)
I'm script writing here. This is candy for the trailer!

WHO DAT DEVIL!

ChrisXVI 01-22-2015 06:18 PM

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Can we blame Rita for the Stanley Jean-Baptiste pick in the draft?? Then everything would make perfect sense!

brees84 01-22-2015 06:24 PM

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Beastmode 01-22-2015 06:34 PM

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His diet consists primarily of “candy, ice cream, sodas and red wine.”

I seriously doubt this is true. This story is getting stranger by the hour. Besides, this is my wife's diet and nothing wrong with her health wise.

xan 01-22-2015 06:35 PM

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I nominate Zooey to play Blank, as she has the tastier moustache of all those nominated.

xan 01-22-2015 06:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 638384)
His diet consists primarily of “candy, ice cream, sodas and red wine.”

I seriously doubt this is true. This story is getting stranger by the hour.

No, I know lots of old people whose diet largely consists of those four food groups.

SmashMouth 01-22-2015 09:28 PM

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As Benson family feud explodes in court, battle over nearly $2 billion fortune begins | NOLA.com

:popcorn:


In fight over Tom Benson's fortune, Texas judge temporarily freezes assets | NOLA.com

vtiger72 01-22-2015 09:48 PM

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This article adds an interesting element. Apparently, Benson may not legally be able to remove the Saints and Pelicans from the trusts. It definitely seems he has under valued them.

Benson’s gambit to remove Saints, Pelicans from heirs’ trusts could fall flat | HomeGarden | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Halo 01-22-2015 09:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vtiger72 (Post 638409)
This article adds an interesting element. Apparently, Benson may not legally be able to remove the Saints and Pelicans from the trusts. It definitely seems he has under valued them.

Benson’s gambit to remove Saints, Pelicans from heirs’ trusts could fall flat | HomeGarden | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Dayum! Dis chit is gettin' crazy cher!!!

saintfan 01-22-2015 09:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 638410)
Dayum! Dis chit is gettin' crazy cher!!!

Time for another "open the books" debate?

If I understand, he can pull the assets out of the trust, but he has to replace them with assets of equal value. How much are the Saints worth?

:popcorn:

burningmetal 01-22-2015 10:19 PM

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I'm confused by some of the comments that seem to be directed negatively at Rita. As soon as I heard the news of the "transfer" this morning, it instantly screamed power play in my head. Why do women marry much older, rich men? For their looks, or hearts? Of course not.

This might only qualify as a conspiracy theory at the moment, but it sure seems like this is a plan that has been long in the works, and somebody is being blackmaled or downright brain washed, for this sudden flip of power to happen. You just don't do that to your family. Tom doesn't owe his wife either of these franchises. She's been in the family for 10 years and doesn't know crap about anything. Meanwhile the one's who have been promised their rights have been putting in work since long before this latest wife came around.

So I'm glad Rita is suing them. Why shouldn't she? I don't want this women to move our team. Given the controversy that is sure to ensue, it's not difficult to imagine her trying to get out of dodge.

Halo 01-22-2015 10:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 638414)
I'm confused by some of the comments that seem to be directed negatively at Rita. As soon as I heard the news of the "transfer" this morning, it instantly screamed power play in my head. Why do women marry much older, rich men? For their looks, or hearts? Of course not.

This might only qualify as a conspiracy theory at the moment, but it sure seems like this is a plan that has been long in the works, and somebody is being blackmaled or downright brain washed, for this sudden flip of power to happen. You just don't do that to your family. Tom doesn't owe his wife either of these franchises. She's been in the family for 10 years and doesn't know crap about anything. Meanwhile the one's who have been promised their rights have been putting in work since long before this latest wife came around.

So I'm glad Rita is suing them. Why shouldn't she? I don't want this women to move our team. Given the controversy that is sure to ensue, it's not difficult to imagine her trying to get out of dodge.

As I remember it, after Katrina, it was Tom Benson who wanted to move the team to San Antonio claiming the new facilities on Airline drive were un-usable when they were not even touched by the storm. His new bride, Gayle, encouraged the move because that's where she was from and wanted the team there. Internally it was Rita Leblanc Benson, Tom's granddaughter, who started to resist and change the mind of her grandfather. Eventually it was Tagliabue who put his foot down for the sake of decency. After Katrina and the Saints return, Rita earned herself an executive spot and a face of the organization.

Tom says ownership needs to shift to Gayle to keep the team in New Orleans long term. My question is, when recently has the long term location of the team been in question? Why is that even mentioned? Sounds like boy who cried wolf and a PR move. Gayle gets the team and it can move at anytime. No one has to fulfill a "promise".

VegasSaint9 01-22-2015 10:40 PM

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Steve Martin can play Smitty for a cameo.

saintfan 01-22-2015 10:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 638414)
I'm confused by some of the comments that seem to be directed negatively at Rita. As soon as I heard the news of the "transfer" this morning, it instantly screamed power play in my head. Why do women marry much older, rich men? For their looks, or hearts? Of course not.

This might only qualify as a conspiracy theory at the moment, but it sure seems like this is a plan that has been long in the works, and somebody is being blackmaled or downright brain washed, for this sudden flip of power to happen. You just don't do that to your family. Tom doesn't owe his wife either of these franchises. She's been in the family for 10 years and doesn't know crap about anything. Meanwhile the one's who have been promised their rights have been putting in work since long before this latest wife came around.

So I'm glad Rita is suing them. Why shouldn't she? I don't want this women to move our team. Given the controversy that is sure to ensue, it's not difficult to imagine her trying to get out of dodge.

I just read the whole lawsuit. I agree completely.

Because tell y'all what...

They make a very good case. A lot of it is "information and belief", but it figures to be accurate one could reasonably assume based on what they can honestly prove has been going on.

And it sure as heck isn't just Rita. This is the daughter and everyone else, and it sure seems like there's been a pattern.

Listen, I don't think Tom has 1.7 billion he can use to replace the value of the Pelicans and Saints in the trust. No way on Earth he seriously devalues the total of the two so much with a straight face assuming he's thinking clearly. That's how I see it - will be interested to see if we get to read his formal (legal) response.

:popcorn:

QBREES9 01-22-2015 11:53 PM

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Family, that why you get to pick your friends. Just sad. We know this is not going to end well.

RailBoss 01-23-2015 03:33 AM

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Boy Christmas dinner at Tom's house is gonna suck next year!

xan 01-23-2015 03:55 AM

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I think that we need to start a B&G collection to raise enough money to buy the club. It is not a stretch that the result of all this fighting is the dissolution of the trust and the exposure of the entire estate to federal and state(s) taxes. As was pointed out, Benson may be wealthy, but he is likely not to have $5 billion in assets that will protect the $1.7 billion value ascribed to the two franchises.

We need to be prepared. Halo? Set up the B&G trust!

SloMotion 01-23-2015 04:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vtiger72 (Post 638409)
This article adds an interesting element. Apparently, Benson may not legally be able to remove the Saints and Pelicans from the trusts. It definitely seems he has under valued them.

Benson’s gambit to remove Saints, Pelicans from heirs’ trusts could fall flat | HomeGarden | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

<sigh> ... it's always the fans who suffer, :neutral:. Lotta' good points on the trusts being irrevocable. That's probably why they set 'em up in the first place ... Mr. Benson wouldn't be the first old guy to do something peculiar, just sayin'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by from the article
“With these kinds of dollars at stake, there’ll be fights over everything,” predicted Joel Mendler, an expert in estate planning at the law firm Baldwin Haspel. “The only ones who will win will be the lawyers."


saintsfan1976 01-23-2015 06:48 AM

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We may have Rita and Tags to thank for bringing the Saints back to New Orleans but we have Payton & Brees to thank for KEEPING the Saints in New Orleans.

Winning cures all and now that things are funky, my gut tells me Benson is back to his old tricks. I'd almost forgotten how sneaky the old days were....

lee909 01-23-2015 07:14 AM

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The worse thing that can happen will be split ownership between the two.
Leaves the team in limbo with two parties pulling it in opposite directions.
I may not be from the city but if this leads to the team to leave New Orleans I'm done.

Its the one aspect of US sports I can't stand,the team belongs to the fans nobody else

SmashMouth 01-23-2015 07:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 638439)
The worse thing that can happen will be split ownership between the two.
Leaves the team in limbo with two parties pulling it in opposite directions.
I may not be from the city but if this leads to the team to leave New Orleans I'm done.

Its the one aspect of US sports I can't stand,the team belongs to the fans nobody else

Well said...:bng:

Mardigras9 01-23-2015 08:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 638415)
As I remember it, after Katrina, it was Tom Benson who wanted to move the team to San Antonio claiming the new facilities on Airline drive were un-usable when they were not even touched by the storm. His new bride, Gayle, encouraged the move because that's where she was from and wanted the team there. Internally it was Rita Leblanc Benson, Tom's granddaughter, who started to resist and change the mind of her grandfather. Eventually it was Tagliabue who put his foot down for the sake of decency. After Katrina and the Saints return, Rita earned herself an executive spot and a face of the organization.

Tom says ownership needs to shift to Gayle to keep the team in New Orleans long term. My question is, when recently has the long term location of the team been in question? Why is that even mentioned? Sounds like boy who cried wolf and a PR move. Gayle gets the team and it can move at anytime. No one has to fulfill a "promise".


Totally agree.
Yes, that is how I remember it also.

foreverfan 01-23-2015 08:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 638413)
Time for another "open the books" debate?

If I understand, he can pull the assets out of the trust, but he has to replace them with assets of equal value. How much are the Saints worth?

:popcorn:

Hopefully they will find the money I got screwed out of when I bought a car from Benson years ago.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...c0f23f0b48.jpg

Beastmode 01-23-2015 09:44 AM

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This is the second darkest time in team history. Could you imagine working in the front office right now with no real leadership having to watch your back at all times. Nobody of quality is going to want to work for this organization in this climate to include FA's even after it's sorted out. If the wife runs the show it's going to unravel rather quickly. All the recent statements by Benson she released, how is that even possible if he's losing his mental facilities. Impossible.

Danno 01-23-2015 09:58 AM

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nm

halloween 65 01-23-2015 10:34 AM

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I have never even thought of the Saints not being in New Orleans. All of my entire life from birth til now all I know is the New Orlean Saints, I could never believe anything else,ever. As a fan there were many, many years that were horrid, even winning 1 game was a highlight in my life at times, then there were the hopeful middle of the pack years to keep your hopes up at possibly winning a banner to hang, now even though the last 3 seasons have kind of stunk we have a Superbowl to add to all the banners that now hang in the dome. The Saints have a rich tradition and an insane amount of fans that live and breath the team good or bad and taking that away would really hurt to the core. I don't want to feel like I lost a piece of my heart.

exile 01-23-2015 10:43 AM

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"Well I believe it all is coming to an end
Oh well, I guess we're gonna pretend
Let's see how far we've come"

What the heck is going on here? Let's see, your dad is wealthy. He marries someone that isn't your mom.

For Renee, Rita and Ryan: I would be **** at this point. I wouldn't want the teams to go to another family. Gayle would be the start but after her it would be her family. Not Bensons.

For Gayle: Heck yeah, I married the man and in Louisiana that means I own half. I am now a Benson so why not?

I'm torn.....


jeanpierre 01-23-2015 10:53 AM

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Can you imagine what the new hires must think?!?

Beastmode 01-23-2015 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 638464)
Can you imagine what the new hires must think?!?

I imagine it feels similar to the Raiders where the owner has the haircut of a 5 year old and takes selfies at Hooters but worse.

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.6080...8&pid=15.1&P=0

SmashMouth 01-23-2015 11:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 638448)
Hopefully they will find the money I got screwed out of when I bought a car from Benson years ago.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...c0f23f0b48.jpg

You bought a car with Russian plates? ... what a putz!

cars4dylan 01-23-2015 11:19 AM

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Wasn't Rita just sent away from the team a couple of years ago for her poor behavior and attitude towards the staff? I thought they made her go thru some sort of manners/professional training before she could come back.

Seems to me if that was the case it appears the training didn't take.

If Mickey is there who cares about the token position of leader? In fact I'd want an owner who doesn't think they know everything about the biz and leaves it to the professionals (aka: Loomis).

If Payton and Loomis bail if the team is actually turned over to Gayle then that will be the determining factor as to the actual problem. If Rita is gone and they're seemingly happier than it was probably the right call by Tom.

NonieT 01-23-2015 11:27 AM

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If the trust is so irrevocable, why not sue on those grounds? Why try and prove incompetence which is extremely difficult. I think there is more to this story than we've been told.

Beastmode 01-23-2015 11:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 638470)
If the trust is so irrevocable, why not sue on those grounds? Why try and prove incompetence which is extremely difficult. I think there is more to this story than we've been told.

Removed items in a trust have to be replaced with items of similar value. That didn't happen. Items were replaced with items of lesser value which is illegal. That's the impasse and call to war from my understanding.

NonieT 01-23-2015 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 638471)
Removed items in a trust have to be replaced with items of similar value. That didn't happen. Items were replaced with items of lesser value which is illegal. That's the impasse and call to war from my understanding.

That still doesn't explain why they wouldn't sue on those grounds if in fact that is what happened.


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