Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery

UK_WhoDat · 02-03-2015, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Have you examined Graham yourself?
What did his MRI's look like?
How did you determine that it was an injury that could not heal sans surgery?
Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

AG. In order.
No
Wouldn't know, mate
I thought about and had an OPINION
Not bloody likely. I don't do Holiday Inn Express. What is there to like? Why should is there is a neeed at the Holiday Inn Express? Did his medics stay there?

I write this on a forum where opinions are accepted. Not all I state is based on facts, expertise, etc etc.

Enjoy your day, Sir. That is an expression of platitude. It is not based on any facts I have of you or staying at Holiday Inn Express or wherever you were or will be.

SloMotion · 02-03-2015, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

AG. In order.
No
Wouldn't know, mate
I thought about and had an OPINION
Not bloody likely. I don't do Holiday Inn Express. What is there to like? Why should is there is a neeed at the Holiday Inn Express? Did his medics stay there?

I write this on a forum where opinions are accepted. Not all I state is based on facts, expertise, etc etc.

Enjoy your day, Sir. That is an expression of platitude. It is not based on any facts I have of you or staying at Holiday Inn Express or wherever you were or will be.

... you should get in on the rezburna "don't denigrate me or my homies because you don't know us" discussions,

.

UK_WhoDat · 02-03-2015, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

... you should get in on the rezburna "don't denigrate me or my homies because you don't know us" discussions, .

Saw that on the SB XLIX thread. I ran. Hahaha

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2015, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

AG. In order.
No
Wouldn't know, mate
I thought about and had an OPINION
Not bloody likely. I don't do Holiday Inn Express. What is there to like? Why should is there is a neeed at the Holiday Inn Express? Did his medics stay there?

I write this on a forum where opinions are accepted. Not all I state is based on facts, expertise, etc etc.

Enjoy your day, Sir. That is an expression of platitude. It is not based on any facts I have of you or staying at Holiday Inn Express or wherever you were or will be.

I was questioning your insistence that Graham should have surgery as stated below. Perhaps it comes from 25 years working as an analyst, but it frustrates me to see assumptions without any supporting facts at all.

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

I say, despite the risks from surgery, the current plan SHOULD BE rehab the shoulder with surgery and rest.

That is against the risk of continuing, as he has done, with an injury that made him pretyy well ineffective last season.

Graham came into this past season perfectly healthy. He suffered the shoulder injury in week five in the overtime win against Tampa bay. It was determined at that time that surgery was not required and playing with the shoulder was possible. That was obviously confirmed following the season. Graham shared the "fact" that surgery was not required and rest, which was not possible during the season, was all that was needed for recovery.

As I mentioned before, surgery is ALWAYS the very last resort. One can fully recover from a wide range of injuries through rest followed by physical therapy.

UK_WhoDat · 02-04-2015, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I was questioning your insistence that Graham should have surgery ....

You are welcome

bobdog86 · 02-01-2015, 12:42 PM

Having gone through a couple shoulder surgeries, I can tell you the last things doc's wanna do is surgery, not to mention, at least for me, I haven't seen exactly what the damage is? a lot of times, surgeries aren't the "fix all", and also a lot of times surgeons will tell you they won't know what they are gonna do until they get in their. Not everything is at appears on MRI's. I'm sure the doc's have a better idea of whats best more so than say any of us. If anything, he probably should have skipped the pro bowl, rested and began rehabbing/strengthening it.

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2015, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Having gone through a couple shoulder surgeries, I can tell you the last things doc's wanna do is surgery, not to mention, at least for me, I haven't seen exactly what the damage is? a lot of times, surgeries aren't the "fix all", and also a lot of times surgeons will tell you they won't know what they are gonna do until they get in their. Not everything is at appears on MRI's. I'm sure the doc's have a better idea of whats best more so than say any of us. If anything, he probably should have skipped the pro bowl, rested and began rehabbing/strengthening it.

A voice of reason.

vpheughan · 02-01-2015, 12:49 PM

That's right, you do what we say! So what if it isn't our shoulder that's getting operated on! How selfish of you! We know what's good for you (fantasy numbers) how dare you confuse our opinions with facts!! Rich primadonna players!

Eaux Neaux, Jimmy has to sheaux he is a team player or out he geauxs, don't you suppeauxs?

SmashMouth · 02-01-2015, 02:15 PM

Probably a good plan.... he DID dunk after all in the ProBowl!

halloween 65 · 02-01-2015, 02:43 PM

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy !!! All that money the Saints paid you and you dunk at the pro bowl. Now I think his injury must be healed up, should be no more excuses for drops, quitting on plays, blocking defenders, and in particular going over the middle. If your well enough to dunk a football over a goal post, do the rest or is it all show!! Earn that high dollar contract you got last year because you aint' earned that big money contract with your abilities last season. Be more like Gronk if you can.

02-03-2015, 05:33 AM	#1
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Have you examined Graham yourself? What did his MRI's look like? How did you determine that it was an injury that could not heal sans surgery? Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? AG. In order. No Wouldn't know, mate I thought about and had an OPINION Not bloody likely. I don't do Holiday Inn Express. What is there to like? Why should is there is a neeed at the Holiday Inn Express? Did his medics stay there? I write this on a forum where opinions are accepted. Not all I state is based on facts, expertise, etc etc. Enjoy your day, Sir. That is an expression of platitude. It is not based on any facts I have of you or staying at Holiday Inn Express or wherever you were or will be.
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02-03-2015, 06:13 AM	#2
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat AG. In order. No Wouldn't know, mate I thought about and had an OPINION Not bloody likely. I don't do Holiday Inn Express. What is there to like? Why should is there is a neeed at the Holiday Inn Express? Did his medics stay there? I write this on a forum where opinions are accepted. Not all I state is based on facts, expertise, etc etc. Enjoy your day, Sir. That is an expression of platitude. It is not based on any facts I have of you or staying at Holiday Inn Express or wherever you were or will be. ... you should get in on the rezburna "don't denigrate me or my homies because you don't know us" discussions, . UK_WhoDat likes this.

02-03-2015, 06:28 AM	#3
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by SloMotion ... you should get in on the rezburna "don't denigrate me or my homies because you don't know us" discussions, . Saw that on the SB XLIX thread. I ran. Hahaha SloMotion likes this.

02-03-2015, 10:45 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat AG. In order. No Wouldn't know, mate I thought about and had an OPINION Not bloody likely. I don't do Holiday Inn Express. What is there to like? Why should is there is a neeed at the Holiday Inn Express? Did his medics stay there? I write this on a forum where opinions are accepted. Not all I state is based on facts, expertise, etc etc. Enjoy your day, Sir. That is an expression of platitude. It is not based on any facts I have of you or staying at Holiday Inn Express or wherever you were or will be. I was questioning your insistence that Graham should have surgery as stated below. Perhaps it comes from 25 years working as an analyst, but it frustrates me to see assumptions without any supporting facts at all. Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat I say, despite the risks from surgery, the current plan SHOULD BE rehab the shoulder with surgery and rest. That is against the risk of continuing, as he has done, with an injury that made him pretyy well ineffective last season. Graham came into this past season perfectly healthy. He suffered the shoulder injury in week five in the overtime win against Tampa bay. It was determined at that time that surgery was not required and playing with the shoulder was possible. That was obviously confirmed following the season. Graham shared the "fact" that surgery was not required and rest, which was not possible during the season, was all that was needed for recovery. As I mentioned before, surgery is ALWAYS the very last resort. One can fully recover from a wide range of injuries through rest followed by physical therapy.

02-04-2015, 05:33 PM	#5
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I was questioning your insistence that Graham should have surgery .... You are welcome

02-01-2015, 12:42 PM	#6
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,485	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Having gone through a couple shoulder surgeries, I can tell you the last things doc's wanna do is surgery, not to mention, at least for me, I haven't seen exactly what the damage is? a lot of times, surgeries aren't the "fix all", and also a lot of times surgeons will tell you they won't know what they are gonna do until they get in their. Not everything is at appears on MRI's. I'm sure the doc's have a better idea of whats best more so than say any of us. If anything, he probably should have skipped the pro bowl, rested and began rehabbing/strengthening it. captainshawn likes this.

02-01-2015, 12:44 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Originally Posted by bobdog86 Having gone through a couple shoulder surgeries, I can tell you the last things doc's wanna do is surgery, not to mention, at least for me, I haven't seen exactly what the damage is? a lot of times, surgeries aren't the "fix all", and also a lot of times surgeons will tell you they won't know what they are gonna do until they get in their. Not everything is at appears on MRI's. I'm sure the doc's have a better idea of whats best more so than say any of us. If anything, he probably should have skipped the pro bowl, rested and began rehabbing/strengthening it. A voice of reason.

02-01-2015, 12:49 PM	#8
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery That's right, you do what we say! So what if it isn't our shoulder that's getting operated on! How selfish of you! We know what's good for you (fantasy numbers) how dare you confuse our opinions with facts!! Rich primadonna players! Eaux Neaux, Jimmy has to sheaux he is a team player or out he geauxs, don't you suppeauxs? captainshawn likes this.
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02-01-2015, 02:15 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Probably a good plan.... he DID dunk after all in the ProBowl!

02-01-2015, 02:43 PM	#10
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy !!! All that money the Saints paid you and you dunk at the pro bowl. Now I think his injury must be healed up, should be no more excuses for drops, quitting on plays, blocking defenders, and in particular going over the middle. If your well enough to dunk a football over a goal post, do the rest or is it all show!! Earn that high dollar contract you got last year because you aint' earned that big money contract with your abilities last season. Be more like Gronk if you can. UK_WhoDat and jeanpierre like this.

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