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WhoDat!656 02-19-2015 01:03 PM

Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
I respectfully disagree.

"That kind of speaks to the stability I was just talking about," he said. "When you lose a guy that has produced at that high of a level and don't have an immediate replacement planned for him, you're going to struggle at times when those crucial situations when you know exactly the matchup you're going to get, the look you're going to get and what you're going to get out of that player. When you don't have that, and it's kind of an unknown, it kind of makes game planning that more difficult."

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blackangold 02-19-2015 01:22 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Not sure what there is to disagree with. He couldn't be more right. How many times did Sproles come up with the clutch 1st down... Us trying to replace him with Cadet was laughable.

saintsfan1976 02-19-2015 01:57 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
He's exactly right!

Just like missing the stability of a formerly sure-handed wide receiver.

RailBoss 02-19-2015 02:41 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Sproles made his living with those short dump off passes and the yard gains afterwards. Took a lot of pressure off Drew and kept the Defense second guessing.

lee909 02-19-2015 02:47 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Except teams had worked ot out and had near enough shut down the saints running game as you new if Sproles was on the field it was a pass. Most of his stats had decreased each year after 2011 too

saintsfan1976 02-19-2015 03:15 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
I'd blame stale play calls more than the loss of Sproles.

Beastmode 02-19-2015 03:28 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
If Cooks stays on the field we make the playoffs. Also, having our two best receiving options NOT being in the top 15 in drops would have helped.

Mr.Riaton 02-19-2015 03:36 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
I remember winning the Super Bowl without Sproles...

WillSaints81 02-19-2015 03:59 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
I think this shows we may need to move on from Colston.

saintsfan1976 02-19-2015 04:11 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Colston is a class act. And at the right price, he's still valuable to the club.

I wouldn't cut him.

Beastmode 02-19-2015 04:19 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Whatever the Saints do, they better let the man exit with some serious accolades and credit to the organization when the time comes. He's in the top 10 of Saints players that's for sure.

blackangold 02-19-2015 04:20 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 641014)
I remember winning the Super Bowl without Sproles...

I remember them winning the Superbowl without 50 other people too...

blackangold 02-19-2015 04:22 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 641016)
I think this shows we may need to move on from Colston.

We need to move on from Colston about as much as we need to move on from Brees.

Losing Colston would leave the WR group with absolutely no leadership, and we all saw how well that worked out for the DBs last year.

Beastmode 02-19-2015 04:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 641014)
I remember winning the Super Bowl without Sproles...

Shockey was also limping. As Brees said recently, it's all about attitude and leadership. We had none of it this past season.

halloween 65 02-19-2015 04:34 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Sproles production dropped off, everyone on the D side knew how to play their D when Sproles was on the field, he was Brees go to guy. Now since he's gone Brees go to guy is Graham and just like when Sproles was on the field the D knows just how to game plan for the Brees to Graham connection. Our drop-off on the O-line has made things alot worse and believe this ,if that line don't get fixed and our high dollar TE don't start fighting off 189lb. CB's it's going to be a very long season. At Brees age ( window closing) a great ground game is going to be needed to compliment him. I would agree 100% our play calling has gone stale and been figured out by alot of D's. The O-line is fixable, I don't think that high dollar TE we have is.

Mr.Riaton 02-19-2015 04:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 641024)
I remember them winning the Superbowl without 50 other people too...

Are you being sarcastic,or do you have a point?

papz 02-19-2015 04:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 641008)
He's exactly right!

Just like missing the stability of a formerly sure-handed wide receiver.

http://awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-conten...12/10/Damn.gif

I feel like I need to ice my balls too.

Mr.Riaton 02-19-2015 04:50 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 641027)
Shockey was also limping. As Brees said recently, it's all about attitude and leadership. We had none of it this past season.

How did Sproles provide leadership that the other veterans on this team couldn't provide? I think this "leadership" thing can be blown out of proportion. Seattle is the youngest team in the NFL,and they seem to be doing just fine.

Danno 02-19-2015 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 641004)
Not sure what there is to disagree with. He couldn't be more right. How many times did Sproles come up with the clutch 1st down... Us trying to replace him with Cadet was laughable.

We didn't try to replace him with Cadet

saintsfan1976 02-19-2015 05:01 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 641024)
I remember them winning the Superbowl without 50 other people too...

If we didn't need those 50, why did we need 1 not named Brees?

dizzle88 02-19-2015 05:15 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 641014)
I remember winning the Super Bowl without Sproles...

Reggie Bush was a pretty big factor that season, the defense had to account for him just like they did Sproles.

Danno 02-19-2015 05:26 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 641040)
Reggie Bush was a pretty big factor that season, the defense had to account for him just like they did Sproles.

With Drew at QB defenses have to account for everyone.

RaginCajun83 02-19-2015 05:28 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
I respect Coltson but I'm calling BS, loosing Sproles took away some of the predictability to this offense if anything the questionable play calling is more to blame

Ashley 02-19-2015 06:12 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 641014)
I remember winning the Super Bowl without Sproles...

But we had a Defense, and Bush. Way better than Cadet

AsylumGuido 02-19-2015 06:20 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 641013)
If Cooks stays on the field we make the playoffs. Also, having our two best receiving options NOT being in the top 15 in drops would have helped.

^^^

This.

Beastmode 02-19-2015 06:35 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 641036)
How did Sproles provide leadership that the other veterans on this team couldn't provide? I think this "leadership" thing can be blown out of proportion. Seattle is the youngest team in the NFL,and they seem to be doing just fine.

Valid point, all I can say is they have young players that are of uncommon quality in terms of attitude. Look, when we have players missing flights, late for meetings etc...no way that was going on in Seattle.

WillSaints81 02-19-2015 07:07 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 641036)
How did Sproles provide leadership that the other veterans on this team couldn't provide? I think this "leadership" thing can be blown out of proportion. Seattle is the youngest team in the NFL,and they seem to be doing just fine.


I don't think Sproles was a leader. I thought Henderson was a leader more so than Colston. Payton also is our offensive leader as well and Brees is the guy that makes calls in the huddle. I think the leaderhip should be reserved for defense because young defensive players are not gonna resonate with Brees. Its because of backgrounds too. This plays a big role.

RaginCajun83 02-19-2015 07:14 PM

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Can't believe I'm saying this but the loss of Jenkins and Harper hurt this team more than the loss of Sproles and I was happy to see can't tackle and can't cover leave

rezburna 02-19-2015 07:15 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Come home Reggie Bush.

WillSaints81 02-19-2015 07:15 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 641036)
How did Sproles provide leadership that the other veterans on this team couldn't provide? I think this "leadership" thing can be blown out of proportion. Seattle is the youngest team in the NFL,and they seem to be doing just fine.


We don't have what it takes to be that team and Brees is certainly not that type of character(don't get me started on Wilson). We have to play defense a prideful way.

AllSaints 02-19-2015 07:43 PM

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Sproles was a huge part of our offense.... Sean Payton has always had that type of quick back to come out the back field catch passes and make plays... Reggie Bush... Darren Sproles.... This year no one... And that was a huge part we missed on offense... Yeah Brandin Cooks end around worked a few times but he isn't a RB.... He is a WR

hagan714 02-19-2015 07:49 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Bush trade lead us to Sproles. that was a solid option but his impact was not so great as Bush

Sproles trade leads us to cook. that failed to have the same kind of impact

Cooks lack of impact on defenses could lead us yet again to drafting another player that will cause teams to adjust to SP toy.

Cadet and Ingram give the saints the rosters spots.

my gut says the saints will be looking at Melvin Gordon, Duke Johnson or Ameer Abdullah to fill the roll

i like Rannell Hall UCF to fill Cadets roll

SP offensive game requires this type of impact player. always has and always will.

RaginCajun83 02-19-2015 08:11 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
I'd like them to draft Duke in one of the mid rounds

RailBoss 02-19-2015 08:17 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Damn good thread going on here! The Super Bowl has been mentioned
and I'm thinking that was the 2009 season. We are now coming into 2015
it's almost hard to believe how long ago that really was.

Mr.Riaton 02-19-2015 08:27 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
All I'm saying is Sproles was a great player for us and fit our scheme well,but the last year he was here he really wasn't setting the world on fire and I know most of you can agree with that. Sproles leaving had little to no effect at all on our offensive struggles. Dropped passes and Not protecting Brees was the problem,along with lack of emotion and execution. I think we let go of Spoles at the right time.

RaginCajun83 02-19-2015 08:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 641066)
Damn good thread going on here! The Super Bowl has been mentioned
and I'm thinking that was the 2009 season. We are now coming into 2015
it's almost hard to believe how long ago that really was.

which is why I'm back to being hard on every move they make again, the honeymoon is over for winning a championship plus the window is closing because like it or not accept the fact that the Saints will spiral back to mediocrity once Brees retires

blackangold 02-19-2015 08:34 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 641034)
Are you being sarcastic,or do you have a point?

I was being sarcastic and wondering if you had a point.

Mr.Riaton 02-19-2015 08:44 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 641071)
I was being sarcastic and wondering if you had a point.

Then why didn't you ask me instead of being a douche? My point is not that complicated...we won a Super Bowl without him and now all of a sudden our offense can't function because he left? We all know what contributed to our problems,and losing Sproles isn't one of them.

blackangold 02-19-2015 11:19 PM

Re: Saints wide receiver Marques Colston says loss of Darren Sproles contributed to offensive struggles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 641072)
Then why didn't you ask me instead of being a douche? My point is not that complicated...we won a Super Bowl without him and now all of a sudden our offense can't function because he left? We all know what contributed to our problems,and losing Sproles isn't one of them.

Your line of logic doesn't make sense.

This is a completely different team then 09. Hell, by 2011 when Sproles was brought on we only had 10 players remaining from the SB roster. We won a Superbowl without Cooks, Jimmy, Stills, Ingram so we might as well get rid of all of them... Oh wait Goodwin won a Superbowl with us so obviously we should keep him, can we bring Shanle back too?

Not trying to be a Douche, but I do feel I'm pointing out the obvious.

Lastly, Colston didn't say the offense could function without him, he just said they were different and less effective without him.

RaginCajun83 02-20-2015 12:14 AM

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Things end up different if Cooks doesn't go on IR and the play calling wasn't so predictable for most of the season


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