No Renegotiation for Brees

blackangold · 02-22-2015, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

This video and many others from saints camp beg to differ

Ryan Griffin to Robert Meachem deep! NEW ORLEANS SAINTS NFL TRAINING CAMP 2014 - YouTube

He hasn't done that well in pre-season.

In camp he was throwing against one of the worst defenses in the league so it should surprise no one if he looked great.

dizzle88 · 02-22-2015, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He hasn't done that well in pre-season.

In camp he was throwing against one of the worst defenses in the league so it should surprise no one if he looked great.

He did pretty well in the preseason opener

16-23 for 180 yards and 2 TD's with a 107.0 passer rating

kaoticx101 · 02-22-2015, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

This video and many others from saints camp beg to differ

http://youtu.be/f9GhdxaXqDg

I can show you videos of jamarcus Russell throwing the ball also. Doesn't mean he can do it in a game......
I've seen Griffin in the game and his deep ball lacks accuracy. Sure he can launch it, problem is that the other team catches it........

RaginCajun83 · 02-19-2015, 10:57 PM

won't be surprised if Loomis tacks on a couple more years so Drew still gets every penny and his cap number goes down

Danno · 02-20-2015, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

won't be surprised if Loomis tacks on a couple more years so Drew still gets every penny and his cap number goes down

Not to mention Drew will get a nice little raise with that restructure as well.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-20-2015, 10:46 PM

Let me fix that for you...

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

won't be surprised if Loomis offers to tack on a couple more years so Drew still gets every penny and his cap number goes down

I find it amusing to see posts where folks think that the team can make one sided decisions. Brees has no obligation to change his contract. The dead cap if Brees is cut, which is the only unilateral decision the team can make, is $33+ million. Also the team would be looking for their next QB.

Now Brees may decide to play ball. But he's not obligated to do so.

SFIAH

hagan714 · 02-20-2015, 08:22 AM

this would be very disappointing. i would consider trade offers if this is the case. cleveland and the jets are in need of a qb and a mentor. yes i am serious. his shelf life is short so strike while the striking is good.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-20-2015, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

this would be very disappointing. i would consider trade offers if this is the case. cleveland and the jets are in need of a qb and a mentor. yes i am serious. his shelf life is short so strike while the striking is good.

On a trade, the team is still responsible for the dead cap money from the signing bonus, immediately accelerated. Right now that's nearly $15 million.

I think paying $15 million and no QB would be a tough pill to swallow.
It would have to be a Herschel Walker type trade deal to make sense.

SFIAH

lee909 · 02-20-2015, 08:38 AM

If the team was going to trade Brees you may aswell blow everything up and dump Evans,Hawthorne,Bunkley,Lofton,Grubbs,Colston and others this year too.

hagan714 · 02-20-2015, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

If the team was going to trade Brees you may aswell blow everything up and dump Evans,Hawthorne,Bunkley,Lofton,Grubbs,Colston and others this year too.

lets see blow it up? tank the year and stock pile picks to go after conner cook in 2016? ok

Lofton, Evens and Colston are to simple to redo to just cut them loss

02-22-2015, 03:44 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by dizzle88 This video and many others from saints camp beg to differ Ryan Griffin to Robert Meachem deep! NEW ORLEANS SAINTS NFL TRAINING CAMP 2014 - YouTube He hasn't done that well in pre-season. In camp he was throwing against one of the worst defenses in the league so it should surprise no one if he looked great.

02-22-2015, 04:17 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by blackangold He hasn't done that well in pre-season. In camp he was throwing against one of the worst defenses in the league so it should surprise no one if he looked great. He did pretty well in the preseason opener 16-23 for 180 yards and 2 TD's with a 107.0 passer rating

02-22-2015, 09:11 PM	#3
kaoticx101 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 8	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by dizzle88 This video and many others from saints camp beg to differ http://youtu.be/f9GhdxaXqDg I can show you videos of jamarcus Russell throwing the ball also. Doesn't mean he can do it in a game...... I've seen Griffin in the game and his deep ball lacks accuracy. Sure he can launch it, problem is that the other team catches it........ RaginCajun83 likes this.
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02-19-2015, 10:57 PM	#4
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees won't be surprised if Loomis tacks on a couple more years so Drew still gets every penny and his cap number goes down SloMotion likes this.

02-20-2015, 07:48 AM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 won't be surprised if Loomis tacks on a couple more years so Drew still gets every penny and his cap number goes down Not to mention Drew will get a nice little raise with that restructure as well.

02-20-2015, 10:46 PM	#6
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Let me fix that for you... Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 won't be surprised if Loomis offers to tack on a couple more years so Drew still gets every penny and his cap number goes down I find it amusing to see posts where folks think that the team can make one sided decisions. Brees has no obligation to change his contract. The dead cap if Brees is cut, which is the only unilateral decision the team can make, is $33+ million. Also the team would be looking for their next QB. Now Brees may decide to play ball. But he's not obligated to do so. SFIAH

02-20-2015, 08:22 AM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees this would be very disappointing. i would consider trade offers if this is the case. cleveland and the jets are in need of a qb and a mentor. yes i am serious. his shelf life is short so strike while the striking is good. MarchingOn likes this.

02-20-2015, 11:01 PM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by hagan714 this would be very disappointing. i would consider trade offers if this is the case. cleveland and the jets are in need of a qb and a mentor. yes i am serious. his shelf life is short so strike while the striking is good. On a trade, the team is still responsible for the dead cap money from the signing bonus, immediately accelerated. Right now that's nearly $15 million. I think paying $15 million and no QB would be a tough pill to swallow. It would have to be a Herschel Walker type trade deal to make sense. SFIAH

02-20-2015, 08:38 AM	#9
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees If the team was going to trade Brees you may aswell blow everything up and dump Evans,Hawthorne,Bunkley,Lofton,Grubbs,Colston and others this year too. UK_WhoDat, jnormand, Danno and 1 others like this.

02-20-2015, 09:04 AM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by lee909 If the team was going to trade Brees you may aswell blow everything up and dump Evans,Hawthorne,Bunkley,Lofton,Grubbs,Colston and others this year too. lets see blow it up? tank the year and stock pile picks to go after conner cook in 2016? ok Lofton, Evens and Colston are to simple to redo to just cut them loss

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