Pro Football Focus vs. The Great Drew Brees Decline Debate

Beastmode · 02-26-2015, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by brees84

Before that drive he threw perfect deep ball to Colston and he dropped easy TD. 2 mins before half time.

No doubt, the man can get it on time and on target and it's really up to the target at that point. My point however is when 3 point are virtually a given and he tries to put a lazer into a tight spot... it's senseless. Nothing wrong with losing battles in that situation. He has an aversion to conceding that defenses just get you sometimes. I don't want him to be a game manager like Alex Smith, but in certain situations just take what is given and regroup.

saintsfan1976 · 02-26-2015, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

No doubt, the man can get it on time and on target and it's really up to the target at that point. My point however is when 3 point are virtually a given and he tries to put a lazer into a tight spot... it's senseless. Nothing wrong with losing battles in that situation. He has an aversion to conceding that defenses just get you sometimes. I don't want him to be a game manager like Alex Smith, but in certain situations just take what is given and regroup.

Jordan didn't make all the clutch shots either. But he's the guy I always wanted to at least take the chance.

billyt81 · 03-04-2015, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Settling for 3 or being conservative, that's my only hit on Brees. He doesn't have that gear. I like the attitude but sometimes it's just not needed. He'll throw it anywhere at anytime. Very agressive to a fault sometimes.

I believe if we had a strong defense, Brees wouldn't press so much. He'd be more willing to throw a ball away and punt, instead of trying to force something and make risky throws. Recently the only way we could win is if we score on nearly every possession.

lee909 · 02-26-2015, 01:22 PM

I can say that nobody in the at least 6 season that QB threw for 5000 yards win the big one.

arsaint · 02-26-2015, 01:54 PM

I can't speak for the guy and he'd never say this anyway, but I suspect he felt like nothing shy of 30 points was good enough last year (and almost any year but 2009).

I suspect that the number of defensive stops or turnovers generated is inversely proportional to boneheaded picks thrown by Brees.

Beastmode · 02-26-2015, 02:03 PM

I can't speak for him either or Vick's. We use Theraflu.

Danno · 03-04-2015, 05:45 PM

Upgrade the interior OL, and Brees is once again a top 3 QB.

I thought everyone knows that.

Boutte · 03-06-2015, 08:22 PM

You guys should listen to Danno more.

Rugby Saint II · 03-07-2015, 06:55 PM

Meh.

02-26-2015, 05:35 PM	#1
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Pro Football Focus vs. The Great Drew Brees Decline Debate Originally Posted by brees84 Before that drive he threw perfect deep ball to Colston and he dropped easy TD. 2 mins before half time. No doubt, the man can get it on time and on target and it's really up to the target at that point. My point however is when 3 point are virtually a given and he tries to put a lazer into a tight spot... it's senseless. Nothing wrong with losing battles in that situation. He has an aversion to conceding that defenses just get you sometimes. I don't want him to be a game manager like Alex Smith, but in certain situations just take what is given and regroup.
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02-26-2015, 08:38 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,036 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Pro Football Focus vs. The Great Drew Brees Decline Debate Originally Posted by Beastmode No doubt, the man can get it on time and on target and it's really up to the target at that point. My point however is when 3 point are virtually a given and he tries to put a lazer into a tight spot... it's senseless. Nothing wrong with losing battles in that situation. He has an aversion to conceding that defenses just get you sometimes. I don't want him to be a game manager like Alex Smith, but in certain situations just take what is given and regroup. Jordan didn't make all the clutch shots either. But he's the guy I always wanted to at least take the chance. Crusader likes this.

03-04-2015, 01:05 PM	#3
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Pro Football Focus vs. The Great Drew Brees Decline Debate Originally Posted by Beastmode Settling for 3 or being conservative, that's my only hit on Brees. He doesn't have that gear. I like the attitude but sometimes it's just not needed. He'll throw it anywhere at anytime. Very agressive to a fault sometimes. I believe if we had a strong defense, Brees wouldn't press so much. He'd be more willing to throw a ball away and punt, instead of trying to force something and make risky throws. Recently the only way we could win is if we score on nearly every possession. OldMaid likes this.

02-26-2015, 01:22 PM	#4
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Pro Football Focus vs. The Great Drew Brees Decline Debate I can say that nobody in the at least 6 season that QB threw for 5000 yards win the big one. rezburna likes this.

02-26-2015, 01:54 PM	#5
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,738	Re: Pro Football Focus vs. The Great Drew Brees Decline Debate I can't speak for the guy and he'd never say this anyway, but I suspect he felt like nothing shy of 30 points was good enough last year (and almost any year but 2009). I suspect that the number of defensive stops or turnovers generated is inversely proportional to boneheaded picks thrown by Brees.

02-26-2015, 02:03 PM	#6
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Pro Football Focus vs. The Great Drew Brees Decline Debate I can't speak for him either or Vick's. We use Theraflu.
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03-04-2015, 05:45 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Pro Football Focus vs. The Great Drew Brees Decline Debate Upgrade the interior OL, and Brees is once again a top 3 QB. I thought everyone knows that. OldMaid and Audiotom like this.

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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Pro Football Focus vs. The Great Drew Brees Decline Debate You guys should listen to Danno more.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Pro Football Focus vs. The Great Drew Brees Decline Debate Meh.

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