Cooper@ #13

triman · 03-07-2015, 08:43 PM

I'm a big fan of first-pick draft sim. Cooper keeps showing up at 13 .not a need ,but BPA?

K Major · 03-07-2015, 09:04 PM

No.

Solidify the O line and/or D. Assuming all of the D line beasts are off the board, I'm hoping La'el Collins name hasn't been called.

ChrisXVI · 03-07-2015, 09:14 PM

I'm all for taking the best player available in the first round... But BPA is subjective and I just don't see us valuing a WR more than defense or O-Line. If that scenario really happened we'd have a great opportunity to trade down.

lsutigerfan · 03-07-2015, 10:16 PM

With Sean Payton you just never know. I'm hoping for one of those stud pass rushers or Danny Shelton if they're all off the board then I like to see Sherff or Collins.

lee909 · 03-07-2015, 10:21 PM

First-Pick has been throwing up strange results lately and that befire i trade back 4 times fauning 4 additional 2nd and 3rd eound pick (man i should be a GM with those skills) and still picking in the top 30.

Yesterday without trading i ended up with
1) Kevin White
2)Shaq Thompson
3) McKinney
4) Anthony
5) Galick

billyt81 · 03-08-2015, 12:38 AM

Will Cooper still be there? He is awfully good and would undoubtedly be the best Saints WR ever. I think our WR core is solid and other positions are woefully inadequate. Personally, I would be shocked if we took La'el Collins in the first round though I love the idea. Payton does not draft LSU players.

jeanpierre · 03-10-2015, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Payton does not draft LSU players.

That's not accurate...

First, Payton did everything to trade up in the 2008 draft to get the Chiefs pick and select Glenn Dorsey, but Chiefs GM Carl Peterson was being a *****; we settled on the seventh pick (49ers pick via New England) and selected Sedrick Ellis...

Second, In the 2010 NFL Draft, LSU DL Al Woods was selected in the fourth round...

And though he didn't select him, Devery Henderson (Drafted in 2004) was considered a disappointment and Payton and staff really turned Devery into a true performer...

The Saints franchise as a whole has never really brought in alot of Saints players, Hokie Gajan, Dalton Hilliard, Eric Martin were probably the most during the mid-late 80's, so to say that's on Payton is just not accurate...

I'd be really disappointed, skeptical taking another receiver in the first round...

I'm thinking LB and/or CB with the first three picks (two first rounders, one second rounder)...

billyt81 · 03-10-2015, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

That's not accurate...

First, Payton did everything to trade up in the 2008 draft to get the Chiefs pick and select Glenn Dorsey, but Chiefs GM Carl Peterson was being a *****; we settled on the seventh pick (49ers pick via New England) and selected Sedrick Ellis...

Second, In the 2010 NFL Draft, LSU DL Al Woods was selected in the fourth round...

And though he didn't select him, Devery Henderson (Drafted in 2004) was considered a disappointment and Payton and staff really turned Devery into a true performer...

The Saints franchise as a whole has never really brought in alot of Saints players, Hokie Gajan, Dalton Hilliard, Eric Martin were probably the most during the mid-late 80's, so to say that's on Payton is just not accurate...

I'd be really disappointed, skeptical taking another receiver in the first round...

I'm thinking LB and/or CB with the first three picks (two first rounders, one second rounder)...

So, in Payton's tenure, the Saints have drafted exactly one LSU player. And how can Devery Henderson be considered a disappointment? I think he had a great career in New Orleans. In that same span the Pats have taken bunches of LSU players and look what they've done. Which is it? Was Devery a true performer or a disappointment? how can it be both? LOL.

lee909 · 03-08-2015, 12:57 AM

Best WR ever,big statement seeing as he has not pulled on a helmet at pro level yet. He would also need to amass 1000 yards a year and 7 TDs to break Colston record

Crusader · 03-08-2015, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Best WR ever,big statement seeing as he has not pulled on a helmet at pro level yet. He would also need to amass 1000 yards a year and 7 TDs to break Colston record

Not an easy feat to perform. HE would also have to do it for a long time. He is a great player and I'd love to see him in black and gold. I really do hope that BPA at #13 is defence or O-line. Or rather a trade down for some more picks, its a pretty deep draft.

03-07-2015, 08:43 PM	#1
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03-07-2015, 09:04 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,768 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Cooper@ #13 No. Solidify the O line and/or D. Assuming all of the D line beasts are off the board, I'm hoping La'el Collins name hasn't been called. SmashMouth likes this.

03-07-2015, 09:14 PM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Cooper@ #13 I'm all for taking the best player available in the first round... But BPA is subjective and I just don't see us valuing a WR more than defense or O-Line. If that scenario really happened we'd have a great opportunity to trade down.

03-07-2015, 10:16 PM	#4
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: Cooper@ #13 With Sean Payton you just never know. I'm hoping for one of those stud pass rushers or Danny Shelton if they're all off the board then I like to see Sherff or Collins.

03-07-2015, 10:21 PM	#5
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cooper@ #13 First-Pick has been throwing up strange results lately and that befire i trade back 4 times fauning 4 additional 2nd and 3rd eound pick (man i should be a GM with those skills) and still picking in the top 30. Yesterday without trading i ended up with 1) Kevin White 2)Shaq Thompson 3) McKinney 4) Anthony 5) Galick

03-08-2015, 12:38 AM	#6
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Cooper@ #13 Will Cooper still be there? He is awfully good and would undoubtedly be the best Saints WR ever. I think our WR core is solid and other positions are woefully inadequate. Personally, I would be shocked if we took La'el Collins in the first round though I love the idea. Payton does not draft LSU players.

03-10-2015, 07:39 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Cooper@ #13 Originally Posted by billyt81 Payton does not draft LSU players. That's not accurate... First, Payton did everything to trade up in the 2008 draft to get the Chiefs pick and select Glenn Dorsey, but Chiefs GM Carl Peterson was being a *****; we settled on the seventh pick (49ers pick via New England) and selected Sedrick Ellis... Second, In the 2010 NFL Draft, LSU DL Al Woods was selected in the fourth round... And though he didn't select him, Devery Henderson (Drafted in 2004) was considered a disappointment and Payton and staff really turned Devery into a true performer... The Saints franchise as a whole has never really brought in alot of Saints players, Hokie Gajan, Dalton Hilliard, Eric Martin were probably the most during the mid-late 80's, so to say that's on Payton is just not accurate... I'd be really disappointed, skeptical taking another receiver in the first round... I'm thinking LB and/or CB with the first three picks (two first rounders, one second rounder)... K Major likes this.
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03-10-2015, 09:00 PM	#8
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Cooper@ #13 Originally Posted by jeanpierre That's not accurate... First, Payton did everything to trade up in the 2008 draft to get the Chiefs pick and select Glenn Dorsey, but Chiefs GM Carl Peterson was being a *****; we settled on the seventh pick (49ers pick via New England) and selected Sedrick Ellis... Second, In the 2010 NFL Draft, LSU DL Al Woods was selected in the fourth round... And though he didn't select him, Devery Henderson (Drafted in 2004) was considered a disappointment and Payton and staff really turned Devery into a true performer... The Saints franchise as a whole has never really brought in alot of Saints players, Hokie Gajan, Dalton Hilliard, Eric Martin were probably the most during the mid-late 80's, so to say that's on Payton is just not accurate... I'd be really disappointed, skeptical taking another receiver in the first round... I'm thinking LB and/or CB with the first three picks (two first rounders, one second rounder)... So, in Payton's tenure, the Saints have drafted exactly one LSU player. And how can Devery Henderson be considered a disappointment? I think he had a great career in New Orleans. In that same span the Pats have taken bunches of LSU players and look what they've done. Which is it? Was Devery a true performer or a disappointment? how can it be both? LOL.

03-08-2015, 12:57 AM	#9
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cooper@ #13 Best WR ever,big statement seeing as he has not pulled on a helmet at pro level yet. He would also need to amass 1000 yards a year and 7 TDs to break Colston record Crusader likes this.

03-08-2015, 05:23 AM	#10
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,033	Re: Cooper@ #13 Originally Posted by lee909 Best WR ever,big statement seeing as he has not pulled on a helmet at pro level yet. He would also need to amass 1000 yards a year and 7 TDs to break Colston record Not an easy feat to perform. HE would also have to do it for a long time. He is a great player and I'd love to see him in black and gold. I really do hope that BPA at #13 is defence or O-line. Or rather a trade down for some more picks, its a pretty deep draft.

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