Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

03-11-2015, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

4 til 5 years! Do you really think Drew have 4 til 5 years? I think they could've got a higher or more draft picks for Jimmy. I think Jimmy was injured that's why he wasn't that dominant as the years before. I don't see why they're looking for a center when it's obvious Evans or Grubbs need to be replaced.

If they wanted to send a message to the team with this trade, it was carried out and time will tell if it was negative or positive. More likely they going to want their guarantee up front due to fact they seeing how Sproles, now. Graham being traded out

Dude our main issues were on the interior of the line and center was by far the most needed position. Evans was hurt all year, apparently so let's do a wait and see on him, and Grubbs may end up gone, don't know. I really would love to see that big ol boy from Iowa come here, oh my I salivate at the idea.

Jimmy was injured, but maybe it was a situation where we needed a proven center, and it was a get what we can for him while we can. I am sad to see him go, love the dude, but we have more needs and as someone said, if Unger plays close to his 2013 level and is healthy (he is only 28) that will go a longer way to helping this team than keeping JG. I agree, but I could be wrong.

spkb25 · 03-11-2015, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

4 til 5 years! Do you really think Drew have 4 til 5 years? I think they could've got a higher or more draft picks for Jimmy. I think Jimmy was injured that's why he wasn't that dominant as the years before. I don't see why they're looking for a center when it's obvious Evans or Grubbs need to be replaced.

If they wanted to send a message to the team with this trade, it was carried out and time will tell if it was negative or positive. More likely they going to want their guarantee up front due to fact they seeing how Sproles, now. Graham being traded out

Drew 4-5 years, yes if we have a line for him.

spkb25 · 03-11-2015, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i really do not think people truly understand how good Unger really is. then that contract of his is really sweet. look for an extension in 2016

OL never get any respect

cap wise it cost us 2 mill because we had to eat jimmy's dead cap money. now 2016 the impact will be felt cap wise. 2016 cap issues just got better.

i do not think they are done yet either. draft day trade involving players is very possible.

washington trade up? jump ahead of the jets could cost us another pick or a player/ washington has a new coaching staff in place and one thing they like is a big OL.

next cap move OG plus picks to washington in a trade up?

OLINE is so important, so important. Great post, and Unger, from all I have read, is very good. Still young too. Good Post Hag

spkb25 · 03-11-2015, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard

I disagree, priority was center, but yes we can use guard help too. Let's see what the rest of FA and draft bring

spkb25 · 03-11-2015, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Fix the defense, the offense is sputtering cause they keep sacrificing it by drafting defensive players that don't pan out or trading players like Sproles now Graham whom were the 1 and 2 punch for 2013

Our offense is much closer than our defense to producing well, and really just an oline away, first piece that was highly needed...center.

Mick said this was to fix the D, s I'd expect some moves to come on that side too.

spkb25 · 03-11-2015, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

they groom him to play center now you move him to guard, how do the kid suppose to to excel if they changing him every year

We could be the Eagles who just let their best RB leave, their best wideout, and traded their QB for a QB who has had two acl injuries two years in a row for the Eagles 2nd, 4rth, and the rams 5th. LOL.

I like you defending your opinion amongst a group who disagrees, but thank god we're not them

hagan714 · 03-11-2015, 08:26 AM

defense is a mess and only got worse. they are not going to win us anything, bend do not break is the best we are going to get. offense is key.

as drew goes so do the saints. he can step up this year unlike the years past.

now we need a tall WR

hagan714 · 03-11-2015, 08:27 AM

good solid debate i have to admit

Tobias-Reiper · 03-11-2015, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Did we win a Super-Bowl with Graham and a bad center or without Graham and a good center? I forget...

I do recall winning the SB without Graham, with a good center, and a TE on one leg. I may be wrong, though...

Tobias-Reiper · 03-11-2015, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

I'm not all that upset Graham was traded. I'm more upset on where Graham is going, I don't get why you give a team that's been the NFC Conference Champ two years in a row a potentially deadly offensive weapon like Graham.

Could it be Sean|Drew know something you don't? I don't know. What I know is, the last couple years, Graham has not been exactly a deadly weapon. The injuries, the drops, and the disappearances in big games... the stats may be there, but stats only win games in fantasy football.

03-11-2015, 08:07 AM	#301
Threaded by spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by nola_swammi 4 til 5 years! Do you really think Drew have 4 til 5 years? I think they could've got a higher or more draft picks for Jimmy. I think Jimmy was injured that's why he wasn't that dominant as the years before. I don't see why they're looking for a center when it's obvious Evans or Grubbs need to be replaced. If they wanted to send a message to the team with this trade, it was carried out and time will tell if it was negative or positive. More likely they going to want their guarantee up front due to fact they seeing how Sproles, now. Graham being traded out Dude our main issues were on the interior of the line and center was by far the most needed position. Evans was hurt all year, apparently so let's do a wait and see on him, and Grubbs may end up gone, don't know. I really would love to see that big ol boy from Iowa come here, oh my I salivate at the idea. Jimmy was injured, but maybe it was a situation where we needed a proven center, and it was a get what we can for him while we can. I am sad to see him go, love the dude, but we have more needs and as someone said, if Unger plays close to his 2013 level and is healthy (he is only 28) that will go a longer way to helping this team than keeping JG. I agree, but I could be wrong.
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03-11-2015, 08:08 AM	#302
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi 4 til 5 years! Do you really think Drew have 4 til 5 years? I think they could've got a higher or more draft picks for Jimmy. I think Jimmy was injured that's why he wasn't that dominant as the years before. I don't see why they're looking for a center when it's obvious Evans or Grubbs need to be replaced. If they wanted to send a message to the team with this trade, it was carried out and time will tell if it was negative or positive. More likely they going to want their guarantee up front due to fact they seeing how Sproles, now. Graham being traded out Drew 4-5 years, yes if we have a line for him. dam1953 likes this.

03-11-2015, 08:10 AM	#303
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by hagan714 i really do not think people truly understand how good Unger really is. then that contract of his is really sweet. look for an extension in 2016 OL never get any respect cap wise it cost us 2 mill because we had to eat jimmy's dead cap money. now 2016 the impact will be felt cap wise. 2016 cap issues just got better. i do not think they are done yet either. draft day trade involving players is very possible. washington trade up? jump ahead of the jets could cost us another pick or a player/ washington has a new coaching staff in place and one thing they like is a big OL. next cap move OG plus picks to washington in a trade up? OLINE is so important, so important. Great post, and Unger, from all I have read, is very good. Still young too. Good Post Hag

03-11-2015, 08:12 AM	#304
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard I disagree, priority was center, but yes we can use guard help too. Let's see what the rest of FA and draft bring

03-11-2015, 08:16 AM	#305
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi Fix the defense, the offense is sputtering cause they keep sacrificing it by drafting defensive players that don't pan out or trading players like Sproles now Graham whom were the 1 and 2 punch for 2013 Our offense is much closer than our defense to producing well, and really just an oline away, first piece that was highly needed...center. Mick said this was to fix the D, s I'd expect some moves to come on that side too.

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03-11-2015, 08:19 AM	#306
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi they groom him to play center now you move him to guard, how do the kid suppose to to excel if they changing him every year We could be the Eagles who just let their best RB leave, their best wideout, and traded their QB for a QB who has had two acl injuries two years in a row for the Eagles 2nd, 4rth, and the rams 5th. LOL. I like you defending your opinion amongst a group who disagrees, but thank god we're not them

03-11-2015, 08:26 AM	#307
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks defense is a mess and only got worse. they are not going to win us anything, bend do not break is the best we are going to get. offense is key. as drew goes so do the saints. he can step up this year unlike the years past. now we need a tall WR spkb25 likes this.

03-11-2015, 08:27 AM	#308
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks good solid debate i have to admit spkb25 likes this.

03-11-2015, 08:42 AM	#309
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Did we win a Super-Bowl with Graham and a bad center or without Graham and a good center? I forget... I do recall winning the SB without Graham, with a good center, and a TE on one leg. I may be wrong, though... spkb25 likes this.

03-11-2015, 08:54 AM	#310
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 I'm not all that upset Graham was traded. I'm more upset on where Graham is going, I don't get why you give a team that's been the NFC Conference Champ two years in a row a potentially deadly offensive weapon like Graham. Could it be Sean\|Drew know something you don't? I don't know. What I know is, the last couple years, Graham has not been exactly a deadly weapon. The injuries, the drops, and the disappearances in big games... the stats may be there, but stats only win games in fantasy football.

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