Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

03-11-2015, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

We got a proven player for a proven player. We saved money, upgraded a position of need and got a first rounder. The 4th round pick is a throw in. Yeah you get lucky in later rounds sometimes, but would you rather have given up a 2nd or 3rd? And who says we have to let grubbs and evans go? They are still productive, but if we choose to move on from them because they are getting older than we'd have some cap space, and from there, we can address the matter of who replaces them. It's called one thing at a time. Did you expect us to fill every need in one trade?

To answer your question, no but they didn't fill a need with this trade.

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Nothing wrong with venting
Coach would have given this trade the green light otherwise it wouldnt have happened imho

Oh no, don't put this on payton,,,,I seen interviews where Loomis say he bump heads with choices he made and this look like one of them

|Mitch| · 03-11-2015, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

To answer your question, no but they didn't fill a need with this trade.

Actually it is, you move Lelito to a starting guard and you have fixed the offensive line right there, not to mention saving a butt load of money...

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Actually it is, you move Lelito to a starting guard and you have fixed the offensive line right there, not to mention saving a butt load of money...

they groom him to play center now you move him to guard, how do the kid suppose to to excel if they changing him every year

|Mitch| · 03-11-2015, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

they groom him to play center now you move him to guard, how do the kid suppose to to excel if they changing him every year

research man; he can play both center and guard... He pulled double duty in college... And if you forget he was drafted and filled in for Evans at guard to begin with...

burningmetal · 03-11-2015, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Oh no, don't put this on payton,,,,I seen interviews where Loomis say he bump heads with choices he made and this look like one of them

In your opinion they didn't. In virtually everyone else's opinion, they did. We did not have a good center. Now we have one of the best. Sorry man, I don't want to make this a personal thing, but I just have rarely been involved in any discussion with someone who refuses to see anything past the end of his eye lashes.

SloMotion · 03-11-2015, 06:24 AM

Well this certainly was a shocker ... all afternoon driving around I figured B&G'd be blowing up. Good or bad, the FO's serious and if this Unger guy can stay healthy, I think it's way for the better,

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Originally Posted by billyt81

This will be so interesting. I could really see Graham struggling next year, in a run happy offense with a QB who is not Drew Brees. Then again, Graham could end up being SuperBowl MVP.

Seattle passes approx. 30% less than New Orleans anyway, so his numbers will naturally be down ... but who knows? It might help him stay healthy and if it was Graham that Wilson was targeting instead of Lockett, they may have very well scored on that last play. The biggest thing that'll probably affect JG's play is the locker room drama that's gonna' play out (see below),

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Jimmy Graham, Seahawks' defenders have issues that need mending | NOLA.com

spkb25 · 03-11-2015, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiFxwX5QoqM

Great, Halo, see your back to making kids cry

spkb25 · 03-11-2015, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ2F7CW3yKY

Nice seeing my man Mike and Deuce! We need high character dudes like that

spkb25 · 03-11-2015, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I often find myself wondering why people always want to justify any move the Saints make, but this actually isn't one of them.

I don't see this as anyone hating on Jimmy, either. People are just realizing that we have bigger needs and something major had to happen. All this restructuring crap we do every year gets us nowhere. Now we free up Graham's cap space, plus the player and draft pick we got in return.

A proven commodity and a 1st rounder is better than two first rounders, neither of which are proven. That's what makes this a good deal. The only thing I don't like is that he's with the Seahawks, but as critical as I've been of our front office in recent years, I honestly don't think they would have traded him to THAT team without exploring all other options first. The most suitable return just ended up being the hags.

This is a good post bro. It is exactly what it is. I love JG, and I don't like seeing him in that seachichen gear, but we need a team. We need a 2009 type offense, and we are not getting that without fixing the oline.

03-11-2015, 04:20 AM	#291
Threaded by nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by burningmetal We got a proven player for a proven player. We saved money, upgraded a position of need and got a first rounder. The 4th round pick is a throw in. Yeah you get lucky in later rounds sometimes, but would you rather have given up a 2nd or 3rd? And who says we have to let grubbs and evans go? They are still productive, but if we choose to move on from them because they are getting older than we'd have some cap space, and from there, we can address the matter of who replaces them. It's called one thing at a time. Did you expect us to fill every need in one trade? To answer your question, no but they didn't fill a need with this trade.
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03-11-2015, 04:23 AM	#292
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by lee909 Nothing wrong with venting Coach would have given this trade the green light otherwise it wouldnt have happened imho Oh no, don't put this on payton,,,,I seen interviews where Loomis say he bump heads with choices he made and this look like one of them

03-11-2015, 04:23 AM	#293
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi To answer your question, no but they didn't fill a need with this trade. Actually it is, you move Lelito to a starting guard and you have fixed the offensive line right there, not to mention saving a butt load of money... SaintFanInATLHELL, spkb25 and SloMotion like this.

03-11-2015, 04:25 AM	#294
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Actually it is, you move Lelito to a starting guard and you have fixed the offensive line right there, not to mention saving a butt load of money... they groom him to play center now you move him to guard, how do the kid suppose to to excel if they changing him every year

03-11-2015, 04:26 AM	#295
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi they groom him to play center now you move him to guard, how do the kid suppose to to excel if they changing him every year research man; he can play both center and guard... He pulled double duty in college... And if you forget he was drafted and filled in for Evans at guard to begin with... spkb25 and SloMotion like this.
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03-11-2015, 05:35 AM	#296
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi Oh no, don't put this on payton,,,,I seen interviews where Loomis say he bump heads with choices he made and this look like one of them In your opinion they didn't. In virtually everyone else's opinion, they did. We did not have a good center. Now we have one of the best. Sorry man, I don't want to make this a personal thing, but I just have rarely been involved in any discussion with someone who refuses to see anything past the end of his eye lashes.

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Well this certainly was a shocker ... all afternoon driving around I figured B&G'd be blowing up. Good or bad, the FO's serious and if this Unger guy can stay healthy, I think it's way for the better, . Originally Posted by billyt81 This will be so interesting. I could really see Graham struggling next year, in a run happy offense with a QB who is not Drew Brees. Then again, Graham could end up being SuperBowl MVP. Seattle passes approx. 30% less than New Orleans anyway, so his numbers will naturally be down ... but who knows? It might help him stay healthy and if it was Graham that Wilson was targeting instead of Lockett, they may have very well scored on that last play. The biggest thing that'll probably affect JG's play is the locker room drama that's gonna' play out (see below), . Originally Posted by SmashMouth Jimmy Graham, Seahawks' defenders have issues that need mending \| NOLA.com hagan714 likes this.

03-11-2015, 06:55 AM	#298
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by Halo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiFxwX5QoqM Great, Halo, see your back to making kids cry

03-11-2015, 07:00 AM	#299
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by Halo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ2F7CW3yKY Nice seeing my man Mike and Deuce! We need high character dudes like that hagan714 likes this.

03-11-2015, 07:03 AM	#300
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by burningmetal I often find myself wondering why people always want to justify any move the Saints make, but this actually isn't one of them. I don't see this as anyone hating on Jimmy, either. People are just realizing that we have bigger needs and something major had to happen. All this restructuring crap we do every year gets us nowhere. Now we free up Graham's cap space, plus the player and draft pick we got in return. A proven commodity and a 1st rounder is better than two first rounders, neither of which are proven. That's what makes this a good deal. The only thing I don't like is that he's with the Seahawks, but as critical as I've been of our front office in recent years, I honestly don't think they would have traded him to THAT team without exploring all other options first. The most suitable return just ended up being the hags. This is a good post bro. It is exactly what it is. I love JG, and I don't like seeing him in that seachichen gear, but we need a team. We need a 2009 type offense, and we are not getting that without fixing the oline. burningmetal likes this.

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