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stickman 03-11-2015 01:38 PM
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The article also pointed out something that had me curious. The Seahawks just traded for a guy that they COMPLETELY took out of a playoff game, and that one of their own players called out for being soft. Odd.

ikecomp 03-11-2015 01:48 PM
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Great article. good analysis and insight into why a lot of saints fans are not outraged by the trade. Graham has been a monster for us but his shortcomings have become more glaring over the years.

Injury issues, drive killing drops, lack of physicality when the ball is not already in his hands, lack of consistency towards the end of the season, etc.

I wish Graham all the best but I'm all for this deal. Plus graham will realize in Seattle it's a lot different having wilson throw you the ball than brees. He will make an impact but not the huge impact everyone is expecting.

halloween 65 03-11-2015 02:03 PM
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I finally got my wish. Now I would like a TE like Shockey, one with a heart and passion for the great game of football.

Crusader 03-11-2015 02:38 PM
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Good read!

billyt81 03-11-2015 03:12 PM
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He mentions Minnesota TE Maxx Williams, who I mentioned here too. He speculates the Saints could take him at 31, but with a 4.78 40 at the combine we could get him in the 3rd or even 4th round, I think. I do lo like the guy though. He reminds me of Jason Witten. He is a tough blocker and good route runner with soft hands.

VegasSaint9 03-11-2015 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 644393)
This is what I have been saying all along.

OL and DL is where the game is meant to be played. If you can't protect the QB it doesn't matter who you have at quarterback. The OL needs upgrading and it needs to start at Center. When you build an OL the best place to start is Center and work your way out.

THey may not say it but essentially we have entered rebuilding stage.
You mean reloading stage. We aren't rebuilding until #9 is no longer the QB in Nola. Payton's good at retooling the makeup of a team. He did it in 2006, 2009, and 2013.

VegasSaint9 03-11-2015 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ikecomp (Post 644421)
Great article. good analysis and insight into why a lot of saints fans are not outraged by the trade. Graham has been a monster for us but his shortcomings have become more glaring over the years.

Injury issues, drive killing drops, lack of physicality when the ball is not already in his hands, lack of consistency towards the end of the season, etc.

I wish Graham all the best but I'm all for this deal. Plus graham will realize in Seattle it's a lot different having wilson throw you the ball than brees. He will make an impact but not the huge impact everyone is expecting.
Wilson's no slouch and has mastered improvisation. He emulates Brees in a lot of instances. His accuracy has been way better since 2013. And hes only what, 25 years old or something?

ikecomp 03-11-2015 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 (Post 644460)
Wilson's no slouch and has mastered improvisation. He emulates Brees in a lot of instances. His accuracy has been way better since 2013. And hes only what, 25 years old or something?
I didn't say he was terrible but it's different going from a guy that could throw you open and put some additional touch on the ball and a guy that's throwing in more unconventional ways. Just to illustrate, drew was second in the league in completion percentage last year even though he didn't have a great year. Wilson was 20th. To further add to that brees had more completions than wilson had attempts. I think wilson is a franchise guy but if we're talking about purely passing, it's not even close.

AllSaints 03-11-2015 03:49 PM
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I like the trade but I don't want us to waste the draft pick..... We have 2 first rounders we can get some key players here I hope we don't mess it up

foreverfan 03-11-2015 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 644408)
I have said it.

Other's who post here and who are tons smarter than I am have said it.

The Dallas Cowboys of the 90's proved it out.

That line is the single most important aspect of football (assuming the QB isn't an idiot). And we certainly aren't devoid of talent without Jimmy. We have weapons. Plenty of them. What we don't have anymore is domination up front. We have a QB who will kill opponents with just a little time and the ability to step up in the pocket.

Ingram WILL rush for 1200+ easy next year. Hill will have people saying "Jimmy who?" after 4 or 5 games. Drew will be as solid as ever, his deep ball will make a miraculous return, and we WILL be contenders. All of this IF we fix the o-line, and the JG trade goes a long way to that end because we just put a friggin beast at Center. I'm betting Evans rebounds a bit. Not sure about Grubs. We shall see.

This was a WISE move by the front office. WISE I tell you all.

Now, lets not blow that extra 1st rounder please.

Thank you.

:bng:
We all are certainly hoping the truck so. :D


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