Dear Mr. Peyton Manning

GumboBC · 01-21-2005, 11:44 AM

WhoDat --

Why turn everything into Aaron Brooks?

Let\'s stick to Peyton, shall we?

Peyton is a great regular season QB. He puts up \"eye popping\" stats every year.

But, in the end, he \"chokes\".

How many years do I have to tell you the same thing?

Year before last in the playoffs, Peyton throws 4 Ints and is most responsible for the Colts losing!!

Last year Peyton throws 4Ints and is MOST responsible for the Colts losing the playoff game. Which he admitted to!!

This year Peyton threw 0-TDs and 1int and never attempted a pass over 10-yards!!

Was the Pats defense that good? Come on, WhoDat. We both no Peyton simply did not play well. In fact, he played very poorly.

I think everyone can agree that Peyton Manning has had his worst games in the playoffs.

And it been that way for 5-years now.

1 time is a fluke.
2 times makes you wonder.
3 times and a pattern is devolping.
4 times is a \"trend.\"
5 tims and you\'ve got a real big problem.

Dear Mr. Irsay, (Colts Owner)

Hi, my name is Peyton Manning.

I want to be your starting QB and I want to make more money than anyone in the league.

I promise you that every year I\'ll put up better \"stats\" than anyone in the NFL. I\'ll get you to the playoffs every year and I\'ll be the talk of the league.

I\'ll break Marino\'s record for most TDs too.

But, the first year we make the playoffs I\'ll throw a bunch of Ints agains the lowly Jets and we\'ll lose 47-3.

Then the next year I\'ll throw 4-Ints and lose the game for us.

Then I\'ll follow that up with another 4-Int. game and get us bounced out of the playoffs.

But, I promise I want throw all those INTs again in the playoffs. This time, I want try ANY high risk passes and only throw 5yd. passes. The only downside is I won\'t throw ANY TDs and I\'ll throw only one INT in our own endzone and we\'ll lose 27-3.

How does that sound Mr. Irsay? We got ourselves a deal?

Just give me 120-million and let\'s get this thing started.

Oh, you don\'t need to use any of that 120-million on a defense. I got the stats. Who needs a stinkin\' defense?

saintswhodi · 01-21-2005, 12:04 PM

Dude, what\'s the weather like in the world you live in? Nice and sunny I bet.

Drop us a line when you come back to Earth. Even with two 4 INT games in the playoffs, Peyton has TWO PERFECT games in the playoffs. Go back and read the stats, which are facts, that I posted. Then, add those 8 INTs in the playoffs to his touchdowns and other stats, and he still blows away most playoff qbs. Come off it.

And I am sure WhoDat brings up Leon cause your arguments for him are: Everyone blames the qb and head coach and that is just stupid, and here you are blaming Peyton Manning, the qb for playoff losses. Oh, but Leon only has \"bad games\" when he looks terrible. Get real. Wait, and those are in the regular season. Will we ever have an opportunity for our qb to look bad in the playoffs? Ever? In a driving snow where the winning qb attempted LESS passes and his team ran for 200 yards while Peyton\'s ran for less than 50? Wow dude.

[Edited on 21/1/2005 by saintswhodi]

[Edited on 21/1/2005 by saintswhodi]

BrooksMustGo · 01-21-2005, 12:07 PM

Check me if I\'m wrong here.

Isn\'t Peyton Manning the QB for the Indianapolis Colts?
If he we QB of the New Orleans Saints, I could understand why he gets an entire thread devoted to him.

But if we are going to talk about other teams QB\'s that cost their teams games in the playoffs, why aren\'t we talking about Brett Favre?

saintswhodi · 01-21-2005, 12:15 PM

Because Favre is not ideal to Gumbo\'s argument. Peyton is as he has been featured in previous Brooks\' debates. SO to further his arguments, Gumbo knocks Peyton. Then we all respond cause most know this is the cause for this thread.

spkb25 · 01-21-2005, 04:36 PM

that post should be about mcnabb too. damn three nfc championships and no wins could u imagine. even kelly could get to the show 4 years in a row. hes a poor mans jim kelly.

WhoDat · 01-21-2005, 08:18 PM

Let\'s see Billy, this is really a tough argument to crack. Let me think about it for a second....

Who did \"Manning\", not the Colts but \"Manning\" lose to in the playoffs this year? The Patriots?

How about last year? The Patriots?

So Peyton has lost twice to a team that has gone 32-4 so far in the last two seasons, won two Super Bowls in the last 4 four years, and is in the AFC Championship game again, and might make that 3 out of 4. Yeah - what a bum!

In 1999 the Colts lost to the Titans. Where did they end up that year? The Super Bowl?

Man, I wish you were just trying to stir the pot. The sad thing is that you\'re serious.

spkb25 · 01-21-2005, 08:28 PM

whodat ur so right but i have learned in my little time of being here that this guy is just about making a stir!

spkb25 · 01-21-2005, 08:31 PM

also didnt steve young loose two or three trimes to the cowboys before having his chance at the super bowl. i guess he was a bumb to huh gumbi@ch

WhoDat · 01-21-2005, 08:52 PM

Great point - Young was a choke artist too I guess. And that Dan Marino was worthless too huh?

Quick question Billy - is getting to the Super Bowl more important than having a great talent at QB? Just wondering? I mean, do you think that the Colts will just never do it with Manning? That\'s interesting - I\'d love to hear your argument as to why Manning is a problem keeping the Colts from the SB, but Brooks isn\'t a problem for the Saints. Just curious.

mutineer10 · 01-22-2005, 09:59 AM

Funny how Jim Kelly should come up again. I was never a big Kelly fan, but I\'ll acknowledge his accomplishments as the daddy of the: \"no huddle\" offense, QB calls his own plays, etc. style. Would there be a Peyton Manning without a Jim Kelly ... ? It\'s in interesting question, especially when both of them can\'t seem to win the big ones.

That being said, I\'d actually take the \"Aaron Brooks & Deuce McAllister for Peyton Manning\" trade straight up. No hesitation. Manning\'s the best the game has seen in quite a while, and great RB\'s are easier to come by than great QB\'s (plus, the Pats won the Super Bowl last year with Antowain Smith at RB, for chrissake!!!). I\'ll especially take the trade if Deuce doesn\'t buckle up and lose some of that gut.

Until training camp...

[Edited on 22/1/2005 by mutineer10]

01-21-2005, 11:44 AM	#21
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning WhoDat -- Why turn everything into Aaron Brooks? Let\'s stick to Peyton, shall we? Peyton is a great regular season QB. He puts up \"eye popping\" stats every year. But, in the end, he \"chokes\". How many years do I have to tell you the same thing? Year before last in the playoffs, Peyton throws 4 Ints and is most responsible for the Colts losing!! Last year Peyton throws 4Ints and is MOST responsible for the Colts losing the playoff game. Which he admitted to!! This year Peyton threw 0-TDs and 1int and never attempted a pass over 10-yards!! Was the Pats defense that good? Come on, WhoDat. We both no Peyton simply did not play well. In fact, he played very poorly. I think everyone can agree that Peyton Manning has had his worst games in the playoffs. And it been that way for 5-years now. 1 time is a fluke. 2 times makes you wonder. 3 times and a pattern is devolping. 4 times is a \"trend.\" 5 tims and you\'ve got a real big problem. Dear Mr. Irsay, (Colts Owner) Hi, my name is Peyton Manning. I want to be your starting QB and I want to make more money than anyone in the league. I promise you that every year I\'ll put up better \"stats\" than anyone in the NFL. I\'ll get you to the playoffs every year and I\'ll be the talk of the league. I\'ll break Marino\'s record for most TDs too. But, the first year we make the playoffs I\'ll throw a bunch of Ints agains the lowly Jets and we\'ll lose 47-3. Then the next year I\'ll throw 4-Ints and lose the game for us. Then I\'ll follow that up with another 4-Int. game and get us bounced out of the playoffs. But, I promise I want throw all those INTs again in the playoffs. This time, I want try ANY high risk passes and only throw 5yd. passes. The only downside is I won\'t throw ANY TDs and I\'ll throw only one INT in our own endzone and we\'ll lose 27-3. How does that sound Mr. Irsay? We got ourselves a deal? Just give me 120-million and let\'s get this thing started. Oh, you don\'t need to use any of that 120-million on a defense. I got the stats. Who needs a stinkin\' defense?
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01-21-2005, 12:04 PM	#22
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning Dude, what\'s the weather like in the world you live in? Nice and sunny I bet. Drop us a line when you come back to Earth. Even with two 4 INT games in the playoffs, Peyton has TWO PERFECT games in the playoffs. Go back and read the stats, which are facts, that I posted. Then, add those 8 INTs in the playoffs to his touchdowns and other stats, and he still blows away most playoff qbs. Come off it. And I am sure WhoDat brings up Leon cause your arguments for him are: Everyone blames the qb and head coach and that is just stupid, and here you are blaming Peyton Manning, the qb for playoff losses. Oh, but Leon only has \"bad games\" when he looks terrible. Get real. Wait, and those are in the regular season. Will we ever have an opportunity for our qb to look bad in the playoffs? Ever? In a driving snow where the winning qb attempted LESS passes and his team ran for 200 yards while Peyton\'s ran for less than 50? Wow dude. [Edited on 21/1/2005 by saintswhodi] [Edited on 21/1/2005 by saintswhodi]

01-21-2005, 12:07 PM	#23
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning Check me if I\'m wrong here. Isn\'t Peyton Manning the QB for the Indianapolis Colts? If he we QB of the New Orleans Saints, I could understand why he gets an entire thread devoted to him. But if we are going to talk about other teams QB\'s that cost their teams games in the playoffs, why aren\'t we talking about Brett Favre?

01-21-2005, 12:15 PM	#24
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning Because Favre is not ideal to Gumbo\'s argument. Peyton is as he has been featured in previous Brooks\' debates. SO to further his arguments, Gumbo knocks Peyton. Then we all respond cause most know this is the cause for this thread.

01-21-2005, 04:36 PM	#25
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning that post should be about mcnabb too. damn three nfc championships and no wins could u imagine. even kelly could get to the show 4 years in a row. hes a poor mans jim kelly.

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01-21-2005, 08:18 PM	#26
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning Let\'s see Billy, this is really a tough argument to crack. Let me think about it for a second.... Who did \"Manning\", not the Colts but \"Manning\" lose to in the playoffs this year? The Patriots? How about last year? The Patriots? So Peyton has lost twice to a team that has gone 32-4 so far in the last two seasons, won two Super Bowls in the last 4 four years, and is in the AFC Championship game again, and might make that 3 out of 4. Yeah - what a bum! In 1999 the Colts lost to the Titans. Where did they end up that year? The Super Bowl? Man, I wish you were just trying to stir the pot. The sad thing is that you\'re serious.
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01-21-2005, 08:28 PM	#27
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning whodat ur so right but i have learned in my little time of being here that this guy is just about making a stir!

01-21-2005, 08:31 PM	#28
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning also didnt steve young loose two or three trimes to the cowboys before having his chance at the super bowl. i guess he was a bumb to huh gumbi@ch

01-21-2005, 08:52 PM	#29
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning Great point - Young was a choke artist too I guess. And that Dan Marino was worthless too huh? Quick question Billy - is getting to the Super Bowl more important than having a great talent at QB? Just wondering? I mean, do you think that the Colts will just never do it with Manning? That\'s interesting - I\'d love to hear your argument as to why Manning is a problem keeping the Colts from the SB, but Brooks isn\'t a problem for the Saints. Just curious.
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01-22-2005, 09:59 AM	#30
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning Funny how Jim Kelly should come up again. I was never a big Kelly fan, but I\'ll acknowledge his accomplishments as the daddy of the: \"no huddle\" offense, QB calls his own plays, etc. style. Would there be a Peyton Manning without a Jim Kelly ... ? It\'s in interesting question, especially when both of them can\'t seem to win the big ones. That being said, I\'d actually take the \"Aaron Brooks & Deuce McAllister for Peyton Manning\" trade straight up. No hesitation. Manning\'s the best the game has seen in quite a while, and great RB\'s are easier to come by than great QB\'s (plus, the Pats won the Super Bowl last year with Antowain Smith at RB, for chrissake!!!). I\'ll especially take the trade if Deuce doesn\'t buckle up and lose some of that gut. Until training camp... [Edited on 22/1/2005 by mutineer10]