Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20
 

Who is we?

Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20
 

Losing is an attitude, not the players on the field. Once a franchise goes into the lose to get a better pick mode they have given up. Screw that. Any player can go down any game. That means nothing. I want to win.

Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20
 

The same WE you have in this post:
What's your point?

Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20
 

I understand the mentality I just don't agree with how strategic it is.

Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20
 

Exactly! You play to win and the let chips fall where they may.

Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20
 

Top ten picks do not determine successful franchises

Look at the rams, browns, bucs, jaguars and raiders

They are guaranteed top 5 picks for at least the last 5 years and besides the browns last year, have nothing to show for it.

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Payton looked at the gimme' from Tampa as a better looking record. When history judges you sometimes wins and looses matter.

On the other hand Lovie Smith had nothing to lose by losing the game. He got better draft picks because of it. The Bucs are looking to make an impact with this draft and they are selecting at a good place to find talent. We are still picking where our record determined our place in this years draft.......fairly high.

I will go on record as saying I was all for pulling the starters and evaluating the back ups better with some film on them. Payton wanted a better record and he got it. Some fans feel the price was too high. But.......

Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20
 

Those with quitting attitudes have been jettisoned from the Saints franchise.

Maybe we should adopt a new rule here.

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Lol.

Football should be played like chess not checkers.

I for one am glad people don't always agree. If everyone agreed this would be a boring forum.

Winning tge game had no tangible effect on the team while losing would have. It also would have been a great time to try out sjb and powell.

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Depends from your vantage point. From the comfort of your armchair and 20/20 hindsight, there are two possibilities. If you have those crystal ball abilities, an argument could be made that yes, indeed, every win accounts for that drop. That would mean that SP knew what his won/loss record was going to be... which is of course preposterous. So the second possibility is much more plausible in that the whole world knew within a spot or two what the outcome of that game would represent, win or lose, , including SP. So we went for the win, as we should have, and used the opportunity to evaluate talent for the hard decisions after the season and the cap decisions right before the draft. And we slip a few spots in the draft. Draft position sure has not bothered BB too much over the years. Saints just have not been as good as they should have recently.:jester: