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Anyone concerned about the state of our WR corps? Outside of Colston and Cooks, they are young and, for the most part, inexperienced. I've been hoping the light would come on for Toon for years, but it just hasn't, so I can't put my hopes in him. Morgan was kicked off the team last year, basically. Then we have unproven talent in Coleman, Jones and Saunders. I have high hopes for all of them. But the UDFA RJ Harris, I'm excited for him. Reminds me of a Lance Moore type


But, overall, a little concern for our WR corps. Thoughts?

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I suspect we'll sign a vet, but on paper this unit doesn't look any worse than the 2009 unit that won the Superbowl.

The main worry is that we have a few unproven guys. But the potential is there. And Toon did look a lot better as the season went on.

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If the O line improves, more time in the pocket will make the receiving corps better, much better. I think that's what hurt the most last year. Bree's didn't have time to spread the D.

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And our offense still finished the season tops in numerous categories.

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Don't forget the improved run game will help also. Btw,did anybody else like those reverse flea flickers in the video?

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Said it before on other threads, these young guys have got to get more reps, opportunities if they're gonna develop...

Would Marques Colston have even made the team if we had been somewhat loaded at wide receiver in 2006?!?

We've got some great size in Nick Toon, Brandon Coleman and Seantavius Jones who've only had few chances to shine...

Plus, you've got Jalen Saunders who came on late in the season in special teams who's now got more time in learning the system...

Really don't think Payton moved stills without having something there on the roster to ease his doubt in making the Dolphins trade...

And with all the picks we had and the ability to make a receiver twice what he'd be on another team, we drafted no wideouts...

Am really excited to see what this big group of receivers is going to do...

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You make a good point. Brees, with time, can make any WR look amazing. We've seen how our WRs that have left to join other teams, tend to disappear there (Meachem, Moore). It will be about the reps these young guys get wtih Brees and how fast they are able to get on the same page. And it's true, if Payton didn't feel comfortable with our young guys, he wouldn't have traded away Stills and Graham.

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Run game will help, and that's set up with an improved Oline. I hope Lelito does his thing at LG.

And I enjoyed those reverses and flee flickers, but, in the NFL, that takes too long to develop and bad things happen. It was still fun to watch tho!

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I fear the saints will have a top 5 WR corp in 2015. for dropped passes and by mid season we will be second guessing not drafting at least one wr

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I definitely agree. I really wanted us to draft Parker. I know we needed to protect Brees but I think Parker is going to be a stud. I also think Cooks will be a lot better in his second year and Colston will not have another year with drops like that again. He works too hard and has too much pride. I always liked Morgan too. He just needs to stay healthy, focused and sober. I really hope Im wrong about our first pick.

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My dear friend, Oh ye of little faith...

Do you not trust Payton and this offense?

Do you not see that the war is won on the offensive line?

Why with only one football used per play would we want to leave offensive weapons on the bench because we're maxed on the field?

Just six months ago we clamored how we HAD to spread the talent around...

Come, see now we have younger, faster, better offensive linemen, cornerbacks, linebackers, Sweet Lord - We Have Linebackers Now!!!

No Andrus Peat wasn't a sexy pick, but that big mofo is gonna maul the opposition...

And we're gonna be gashing teams with Ingram and Spiller - yes that other weapon everyone is forgetting we added...

Calm, calm yourselves and wait for Payton is about to deliver...

For It's clobering time...

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Toon, Coleman, Jones, Morgan. Where are you!?

It's time.

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I am. I am not sold on Cooks. I do wish we could have found a receiver in the draft but I have a feeling we will sign one or two in FA. Who knows what kind of UDFA could be out there either. I am done with Toon. Hopefully Morgan had his wake up call. There is a ton of upside there but its time for him to put out or get out.
Im not worried yet. If we go into camp without having brought someone legit in then I may get a little concerned. Then again if we commit more to the running game we may be ok. At least I think its obvious that they seem to be planning to lean more heavy on the running game this year than in the past.

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Jjasso,
+1... Spot on. Just a week ago in his presser, Sean P did mention there were a guy or two that they targeted in the draft (however it didn't pan out), however he is quite confident that Jones and Coleman are progressing very nicely and are ready.

I sure as hell won't second guess Sean P & I think he does see a lot of potential from those two young guys. Gotta develop and coach em up.

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I haven't been high on Toon mostly because of his injuries but if this guy can stay healthy he will be a stud. I instantly looked at him in a good way late last season.

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You're not sold on Cooks?!?!? Before his injury, he was outstanding! Jesus, what the hell are you looking for?

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Josh Hill, Spiller, and Ben Watson can catch the ball too. I think the fact that we didnt overly peruse WR's first in the draft or FA could mean Sean may be very serious about pounding the ball this season.

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I can imagine the screams if any of the picks were WR.

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Blood may very well have spilled from dogs' ears'...

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Toon, Coleman, Jones, Morgan

SORRY TO DATE ALL I SEE IS A FLASH IN THE PAN, BUMBLING HANDS AND THE GREAT UNKNOWN.

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I think having a solid OLine will help the offense more than the WR corps.

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Here is the depth chart from 2009.
Wide Receivers

87 Adrian Arrington
12 Marques Colston
19 Devery Henderson
17 Robert Meachem
16 Lance Moore
15 Courtney Roby
Tight Ends

80 Darnell Dinkins
84 Tory Humphrey
88 Jeremy Shockey
85 David Thomas

I feel better about this year's depth at WR/TE than I do about this crew. The Saints have been at their best when they had a dynamic satellite back. Now that we have Spiller, I can see another top 5 offense.

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Seantavius Jones and Brandon Coleman they will be the key at this time.

Coleman is all about hands. captain butter fingers of the 2014 SS Draft. I loved the fact we signed him as UDFA. that is the only reason he was not drafted. but if he get a route tree and hands at 6-6 he could be dangerous. Heck he could take over Jimmy's tree. Its not like the saints asked him to run a complex tree. Pretty basic stuff. jHANDS?

Jones is an enigma wrapped inside a riddle. we hear a lot about him and get teased every time he is talked about. for the love of god let me see it action already. Knock on him was the same thing coming out HANDS?

Saunders is a road whore in the NFL. talent is there but can he stick. i liked the kid coming out of college but drafting Marcus Murphy make me wonder if we are just another quickie for him and off down the road he goes to the next team.

Toon is like waiting for a bus out in the boonies of a third world country. you know it will get there but for the love of god when? when it does will it be on all 4 wheels or just 3 and will it be packed with live stock

Morgan can he put up numbers week in and week out and not just be a highlight reel or two before going on IR.

so that leaves us with Cook and Colston.

I do see where everyone feels so good so yearly with this group. if Cook is used as a WR screen like last year and Colston repeats his rare performance last year of sub par play we are taking a huge gamble. god forbid one or both goes down with injury.

i have never been really been all that excited about WR corp we have but this is the first year i am very nervous about the group. I fear Drew can get all the time in the world but will this group catch the ball. Drew and SP may not be able to cover up all the short comings this year. Every year SP gambles and this year he may have spread himself too thin here. worse spot given the fact as drew goes so do the saints. Running attack? i am not sold on that yet. way too many questions still to be answered to think it can make up for short comings in the passing attack.

UDFA and tryout players? never know there are a few of interest in there. There maybe a turn over on the PS

What will also kill the saints? loss of PT and not finding a replacement to pick up the blitz. huge void

If all my fears come to past we will be 3rd in the NFC South and drafting in the top 10 next year.

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Always differing opinions on whether "hands", ability to catch was natural talent or coachable technique...

Hagan, you're exactly right that Coleman would be incredible if we could fix the BC's butterfinger handicap and earn trust in the route tree...

Seantavius Jones was really starting to impress me with his toughness and tenacity, he's the closest type on the roster to Marques Colston...

Everyone seems to overlook Jalen Saunders when it comes to his seemingly "other" position, wide receiver, he had some nice plays...

Nick Toon just seems like he has hit a wall the last two seasons and just needs live reps to continue to progress and be a legitimate threat...

Add that to Marques Colston and Brandon Cooks, that's a maxed WR corps of six (6) players, and you still have Joe Morgan among others...

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We've looked closely at several veteran WRs and supposedly considered taking one in the first round so it's not like the coaches didn't see a need.


Yes Spiller is an "X factor".
Yes Josh Hill is "good enough".

Look, we can compare rosters all day but the fact remains; unless someone not named Colston or Cooks steps up BIG TIME, we are in trouble.

Just like last year at CB...

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:popcorn:

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:lolup:

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Colston rebounds, Cooks plays sixteen (16) games, plus playoffs - problem solved...

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...and don't forget the dump-off and screens to our RBs.

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Colston is a year older and slower. Cooks is a small WR coming off an injury. The only thing that has kept Toon in the NFL is his last name. All the rest couldn't make or stay on an NFL roster last year. Now, they don't have Graham to draw some coverage away from them. The Saints front office dropped the ball in the draft which was deep and talented at WR. Either Payton is truly going to run the ball more this season or it's going to be another long, disappointing season for the Saints. The whole idea that Brees, with his age and declining skills, can do it with anybody, is ridiculous. I personally think this will be the last season in New Orleans for Brees and Payton.

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A name many are forgetting in the receiving discussion is Josh Hill...

He reminds me of Raider's Great Todd Christenson; and I don't throw that complement around lightly...

Same skill set and build; similar character traits as well...

Hopefully the opposing defenses will overlook him as many here have...

But this is the NFL which also stands for Not For Long; and Josh Hill is poised for a great season...

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Wes Welker in a Saints Uni.

http://i.imgur.com/PxIL9Ee.jpg

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Smash, we've got two like him...

Brandin Cooks, Jalen Saunders and Lance Moore is still lurking for a job...

Wes has got serious headache issues; wish him all the best...

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People went everywhere with this thread. Here are my predictions: Josh Hill makes the Pro Bowl and finishes the season with more catches than Jimmy Graham. Cooks becomes a legit #1 WR. Toon and Joe Morgan are tough to figure. Both have the talent and have flashed it. I love Joe Morgan. RJ Harris will make this roster and maybe even start. Huge producer in college, decent speed, polished route runner and a hands catcher. He could possibly pair nicely with Cooks.

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He's a juggler, defensive backs in the NFL won't give him time to get handles on the ball - he better get that fixed...

He's got good straight line speed, but only one gear; he doesn't have that small area quickness you'd like in a receiver that size...

If it's closes, I'm taking a taller receiver who has a high catch point, larger catch radius...

Wish him good hunting at camp...

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If Brees gets the time, any of these guys will do.
Will probably keep 5 or a 6th if they can pull double duty.
Another BIG/LONG with Colston, and then another 3-4 that show they can make things happen.
Doesn't matter to me which 5 or 6 get it done.
If Brees get yet another +4,500 yards we'll be fine.
AGAIN!

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ok i thought about it. still they are the unit that ranks #1 in getting me nervous for 2015.

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For heaven's sake..every one of us (except teddy) beat the drum for defense and O-line in this draft. Lo and behold, we did exactly that... now what's with all the weeping and gnashing of teeth about the offense and the receivers? It's no great secret that we have had top rated offenses with a whole cast of no names at the skill positions, with one or two "weapon x" type of guys. Spiller and Cooks easily fill that role, and I daresay they're an upgrade over guys who have filled that role for us in years past. Everyone relax, breathe and know that we will once again have a top 10 offense, probably even top 5.