Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million

06-02-2015, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I don't get the whole notion of "you know less than the management/front office/coaches, so you shouldn't argue against or question their decisions."

If that would be the case, this whole forum would just be a bunch of homers cheering on every single move the Saints ever make without a fault - I for one don't see the point in that.

This is not directed at anyone in particular, just against this particular evolution of forum behavior that I've come across on various forums more frequently in recent times.

I think the real problem is attacking the knowledge of the front office when there's absolutely no way we know all the facts, and the one's we think we know, we don't really know.

We can criticize a player based on what we know and see on the field. which is probably about 15% to 30% accurate. We don't know what play was called, who was supposed to be where, who recognized a breakdown and tried to compensate and subsequently blamed for the breakdown when it was entirely someone else's fault.

But our knowledge of the business and contract side of the NFL compared to the front office is probably more to the tune of 5% to 10% of what they actually know.

We're merely second guessers. For anyone to suggest they know more than any NFL front office based on anecdotal hits and misses is shortsighted.

Even Jerry Freaking Jones knows more than all of us do!

hagan714 · 06-02-2015, 06:45 PM

Saints Trying To Stay Ahead Of Curve With Jordan Contract

jnormand · 06-02-2015, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Even Jerry Freaking Jones knows more than all of us do!

Whoa! Take it easy!

jeanpierre · 06-02-2015, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

It's probably because we remember how bad the Smith and Grant deals ended up being after not looking too bad initially, especially Grant.

I'm kind of on the fence with this one, the NFL.com article about this mentioned that Jordan is a good fit for either a 4-3 or a 3-4, but I think that is the problem - he fits multiple schemes, but rarely excels in any of them.

Still, he's a high character guy with a good pedigree, so the Saints could've done a lot worse.

^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^

jeanpierre · 06-02-2015, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Boy, there sure are a lot of you that "think" they know more than management. All you are doing is proving how little you do know. Of course, it is the same small group of suspects. We all know who you are and no longer take what you say with any expectation of reality.

You should give Loomis a break and extricate yourself from his posterior...

jeanpierre · 06-02-2015, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Even Jerry Freaking Jones knows more than all of us do!

I rest my case...

jeanpierre · 06-02-2015, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'm pretty sure any players who had issues with "showing up" last year are no longer on this team.

'76, we could only hope the message has been delivered...

I do remember something about Payton wanting to move, release Galette though...

Source(s):

New Orleans Saints exploring Junior Galette trade, according to report | NOLA.com

NFL | Report: Sean Payton wants to cut RE Galette - Rotoworld.com

jeanpierre · 06-02-2015, 07:05 PM

Will deals for Cam Jordan, Junior Galette become a Will Smith-Charles Grant redux?: Larry Holder | NOLA.com

hagan714 · 06-02-2015, 07:16 PM

cap break down then judge.

ScottF · 06-02-2015, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

cap break down then judge.

nothing on spottrac or over the cap yet...

He was a $7 million cap hit this year, so expect that to come down, and the deal is really for 55 plus a chance at an additional 5
My guess is that it is cap friendly and that both sides are smiling

06-02-2015, 06:29 PM	#41
Threaded by Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by FinSaint I don't get the whole notion of "you know less than the management/front office/coaches, so you shouldn't argue against or question their decisions." If that would be the case, this whole forum would just be a bunch of homers cheering on every single move the Saints ever make without a fault - I for one don't see the point in that. This is not directed at anyone in particular, just against this particular evolution of forum behavior that I've come across on various forums more frequently in recent times. I think the real problem is attacking the knowledge of the front office when there's absolutely no way we know all the facts, and the one's we think we know, we don't really know. We can criticize a player based on what we know and see on the field. which is probably about 15% to 30% accurate. We don't know what play was called, who was supposed to be where, who recognized a breakdown and tried to compensate and subsequently blamed for the breakdown when it was entirely someone else's fault. But our knowledge of the business and contract side of the NFL compared to the front office is probably more to the tune of 5% to 10% of what they actually know. We're merely second guessers. For anyone to suggest they know more than any NFL front office based on anecdotal hits and misses is shortsighted. Even Jerry Freaking Jones knows more than all of us do!
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06-02-2015, 06:45 PM	#42
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06-02-2015, 06:47 PM	#43
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06-02-2015, 06:50 PM	#44
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Originally Posted by FinSaint It's probably because we remember how bad the Smith and Grant deals ended up being after not looking too bad initially, especially Grant. I'm kind of on the fence with this one, the NFL.com article about this mentioned that Jordan is a good fit for either a 4-3 or a 3-4, but I think that is the problem - he fits multiple schemes, but rarely excels in any of them. Still, he's a high character guy with a good pedigree, so the Saints could've done a lot worse. ^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^

06-02-2015, 06:50 PM	#45
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Boy, there sure are a lot of you that "think" they know more than management. All you are doing is proving how little you do know. Of course, it is the same small group of suspects. We all know who you are and no longer take what you say with any expectation of reality. You should give Loomis a break and extricate yourself from his posterior... iceshack149 likes this.

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06-02-2015, 06:52 PM	#46
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Originally Posted by Danno Even Jerry Freaking Jones knows more than all of us do! I rest my case...

06-02-2015, 06:55 PM	#47
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'm pretty sure any players who had issues with "showing up" last year are no longer on this team. '76, we could only hope the message has been delivered... I do remember something about Payton wanting to move, release Galette though... Source(s): New Orleans Saints exploring Junior Galette trade, according to report \| NOLA.com NFL \| Report: Sean Payton wants to cut RE Galette - Rotoworld.com

06-02-2015, 07:05 PM	#48
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Will deals for Cam Jordan, Junior Galette become a Will Smith-Charles Grant redux?: Larry Holder \| NOLA.com

06-02-2015, 07:16 PM	#49
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million cap break down then judge.

06-02-2015, 07:59 PM	#50
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Originally Posted by hagan714 cap break down then judge. nothing on spottrac or over the cap yet... He was a $7 million cap hit this year, so expect that to come down, and the deal is really for 55 plus a chance at an additional 5 My guess is that it is cap friendly and that both sides are smiling

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