Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million

06-02-2015, 09:15 PM

1 of 3 players with 25 sacks and 10 passes defended in the past 3 years.

The other two?
Watt and Houston

Never missed a game his whole career, good sign.

jeanpierre · 06-02-2015, 09:16 PM

Don't know why they'd want to bring his cap number down now, get it done and off the books...

Short of a trade, don't see the need as there's no quality free agents of need left to sign...

blackangold · 06-02-2015, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Don't know why they'd want to bring his cap number down now, get it done and off the books...

Short of a trade, don't see the need as there's no quality free agents of need left to sign...

Doesn't cap savings carry over to the next year?

73Saint · 06-02-2015, 11:14 PM

I like the deal, also trust Loomis/Payton. And I don't look at Jordon anything at all like Grant, Smith or Gallette. Oranges and Apples. I was a little surprised at all of the criticism I heard today. Then I heard Mike Detillier talk about it, & felt a lot better. I think he knows his s$%#.

halloween 65 · 06-03-2015, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Boy, there sure are a lot of you that "think" they know more than management. All you are doing is proving how little you do know. Of course, it is the same small group of suspects. We all know who you are and no longer take what you say with any expectation of reality.

I really can't understand why you can say this after a total fail at last season. Management is totally responsible for putting together a winning team. 7-9 well thats not doing to well as braintrusts of a professional football team in which many predicted a Superbowl apperance. Bad drafts, wrong schemes, soft players thats surely not my fault. The lb.'er position has needed upgrading for years which alot of people here have been screaming this year in, year out. DId the braintrust? Finally. You criticize some posters here but not the management, thats pretty interesting when the posters on here can look at a glaring weakness the team has but management knows all. I'm one of those that are in that small group and will continue to be just because I know that if I can see what happens on the field other posters can also, at least the ones that don't have on rose colored glasses all the time.

spkb25 · 06-03-2015, 05:59 AM

Love SP and ML, but one word, Jason David. I feel I can offer some criticizing, but after looking at his stats maybe mine is a bit misplaced. 8, 12.5, 7.5 sacks.... 2 of those 3 years were absolutely horrid years for our defense too.

So appears I am just plain wrong about the guy

hagan714 · 06-03-2015, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

nothing on spottrac or over the cap yet...

He was a $7 million cap hit this year, so expect that to come down, and the deal is really for 55 plus a chance at an additional 5
My guess is that it is cap friendly and that both sides are smiling

this year is not really a big deal. 2016 is the number i want to see the most. 2017 is turn the team on its head year. ton of top cap dollars will be free agents so it will be hard to figure that all out till the dust settles.

jeanpierre · 06-03-2015, 07:44 AM

My philosophy is to keep the proven veterans on offense and keep the defense young, with maybe the exception being island corners or a Sam Mills type Mike Linebacker to keep a consistent identity on defense...

Just don't find most defensive linemen maintain a level after they hit ~ 27-28 years of age...

AsylumGuido · 06-03-2015, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I don't get the whole notion of "you know less than the management/front office/coaches, so you shouldn't argue against or question their decisions."

If that would be the case, this whole forum would just be a bunch of homers cheering on every single move the Saints ever make without a fault - I for one don't see the point in that.

This is not directed at anyone in particular, just against this particular evolution of forum behavior that I've come across on various forums more frequently in recent times.

Yes it is getting more and more common across boards all over. I see the same. It comes from the greater amount of information available, coupled with the greater number of members believing this information, regardless whether the source was a "league source", an equally uninformed blogger or simply an unsupported statement by a forum member.

One thing I have learned from my years digging into all the information that I can is that it impossible to ever know the motivations of management and such. Sure, the members have every right to state what ever they wish, within preset guidelines, but with that comes the right of others to tell them that they don't know shyte.

AsylumGuido · 06-03-2015, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Doesn't cap savings carry over to the next year?

Yes. Any unused portion of current cap is rolled over into the following year as additional cap.

06-02-2015, 09:15 PM	#51
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06-02-2015, 09:16 PM	#52
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Don't know why they'd want to bring his cap number down now, get it done and off the books... Short of a trade, don't see the need as there's no quality free agents of need left to sign...

06-02-2015, 10:04 PM	#53
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Originally Posted by jeanpierre Don't know why they'd want to bring his cap number down now, get it done and off the books... Short of a trade, don't see the need as there's no quality free agents of need left to sign... Doesn't cap savings carry over to the next year?

06-02-2015, 11:14 PM	#54
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million I like the deal, also trust Loomis/Payton. And I don't look at Jordon anything at all like Grant, Smith or Gallette. Oranges and Apples. I was a little surprised at all of the criticism I heard today. Then I heard Mike Detillier talk about it, & felt a lot better. I think he knows his s$%#.

06-03-2015, 05:45 AM	#55
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Boy, there sure are a lot of you that "think" they know more than management. All you are doing is proving how little you do know. Of course, it is the same small group of suspects. We all know who you are and no longer take what you say with any expectation of reality. I really can't understand why you can say this after a total fail at last season. Management is totally responsible for putting together a winning team. 7-9 well thats not doing to well as braintrusts of a professional football team in which many predicted a Superbowl apperance. Bad drafts, wrong schemes, soft players thats surely not my fault. The lb.'er position has needed upgrading for years which alot of people here have been screaming this year in, year out. DId the braintrust? Finally. You criticize some posters here but not the management, thats pretty interesting when the posters on here can look at a glaring weakness the team has but management knows all. I'm one of those that are in that small group and will continue to be just because I know that if I can see what happens on the field other posters can also, at least the ones that don't have on rose colored glasses all the time. jeanpierre and brees84 like this.

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06-03-2015, 05:59 AM	#56
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Love SP and ML, but one word, Jason David. I feel I can offer some criticizing, but after looking at his stats maybe mine is a bit misplaced. 8, 12.5, 7.5 sacks.... 2 of those 3 years were absolutely horrid years for our defense too. So appears I am just plain wrong about the guy

06-03-2015, 06:44 AM	#57
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Originally Posted by ScottF nothing on spottrac or over the cap yet... He was a $7 million cap hit this year, so expect that to come down, and the deal is really for 55 plus a chance at an additional 5 My guess is that it is cap friendly and that both sides are smiling this year is not really a big deal. 2016 is the number i want to see the most. 2017 is turn the team on its head year. ton of top cap dollars will be free agents so it will be hard to figure that all out till the dust settles.

06-03-2015, 07:44 AM	#58
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million My philosophy is to keep the proven veterans on offense and keep the defense young, with maybe the exception being island corners or a Sam Mills type Mike Linebacker to keep a consistent identity on defense... Just don't find most defensive linemen maintain a level after they hit ~ 27-28 years of age... brees84 likes this.

06-03-2015, 10:25 AM	#59
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Originally Posted by FinSaint I don't get the whole notion of "you know less than the management/front office/coaches, so you shouldn't argue against or question their decisions." If that would be the case, this whole forum would just be a bunch of homers cheering on every single move the Saints ever make without a fault - I for one don't see the point in that. This is not directed at anyone in particular, just against this particular evolution of forum behavior that I've come across on various forums more frequently in recent times. Yes it is getting more and more common across boards all over. I see the same. It comes from the greater amount of information available, coupled with the greater number of members believing this information, regardless whether the source was a "league source", an equally uninformed blogger or simply an unsupported statement by a forum member. One thing I have learned from my years digging into all the information that I can is that it impossible to ever know the motivations of management and such. Sure, the members have every right to state what ever they wish, within preset guidelines, but with that comes the right of others to tell them that they don't know shyte.

06-03-2015, 10:27 AM	#60
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Cam Jordan Sign Extension - 5 year 60 million Originally Posted by blackangold Doesn't cap savings carry over to the next year? Yes. Any unused portion of current cap is rolled over into the following year as additional cap.

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