Report: New Orleans Saints concerned about decline in Drew Brees

ChrisXVI · 06-06-2015, 06:37 PM

It's possible. We don't see Drew every day in practice like the coaches do. It's clear they're planning to move on from Brees due to drafting Grayson so I don't see how the article is all that far-fetched.

vtiger72 · 06-06-2015, 10:30 PM

The Saints have Brees signed for two more seasons. He should play up to his contract over the course of that time. The wise move is let him play out the deal and see where the market is for him. A lot can happen to any QB, let alone one at his point in his career, in two years.

Brees should be fine over the life of his contract, and that should be all we should worry about.

burningmetal · 06-07-2015, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

And Farve was a few plays short of a Super Bowl at what, 40?

He had been in decline for years, and had that one so-so year with the vikings where he was asked to do something he had never done in his career... be a game manager. He had a top 10 defense, the best running back in the league, and the Vikings knew he was too old to be the gunslinger he was in Green Bay. He did pretty well, but he quickly broke down after the end of that season.

Guys like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady almost never get hit. When you're getting into your mid to late 30's and you've been taking a beating for a couple years, you WILL decline.

saintsfan1976 · 06-07-2015, 05:57 AM

So if we protect Drew Brees he can play till 40

jeanpierre · 06-07-2015, 06:20 AM

I will say this about our quarterback situation:

Unless Grayson were a total flop, he makes the team based on draft status, investment as he wasn't a Day 3 pick - that'd be different...

With Grayson on the roster, we will carry three (3) quarterbacks so a rookie is not in there if something happens with Brees...

The competition will be between Griffin and McCown with Griffin being the backup if he plays as good as McCown with McCown's salary number...

It's not just the age issue with Brees, but as more time passes post shoulder reconstruction, he will be limited in his throws...

Brees will have to be extended at least another year to bring down next season's cap number, unless Grayson proves the next coming...

spkb25 · 06-07-2015, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

He had been in decline for years, and had that one so-so year with the vikings where he was asked to do something he had never done in his career... be a game manager. He had a top 10 defense, the best running back in the league, and the Vikings knew he was too old to be the gunslinger he was in Green Bay. He did pretty well, but he quickly broke down after the end of that season.

Guys like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady almost never get hit. When you're getting into your mid to late 30's and you've been taking a beating for a couple years, you WILL decline.

So so year, bahahahaha. Are you kidding or just forgetful? I remember he had a phenom year that year so I went to check the stats.

68% completion, 4200 yards, 33 td's, and 7 int's

If that's so so, what's good? lol

SloMotion · 06-07-2015, 06:42 AM

Do guys like Manning & Brady almost never get hit because of their offensive lines (possibly in Brady's case) or because they know how to move in the pocket (as in Manning's case)? I don't think Manning has fused vertebrae or whatever because he almost never gets hit ... I think the reason guys like Brady/Manning/Brees are at the top of the game at their ages is simply because they know how to play (students of the game).

AsylumGuido · 06-07-2015, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Do guys like Manning & Brady almost never get hit because of their offensive lines (possibly in Brady's case) or because they know how to move in the pocket (as in Manning's case)? I don't think Manning has fused vertebrae or whatever because he almost never gets hit ... I think the reason guys like Brady/Manning/Brees are at the top of the game at their ages is simply because they know how to play (students of the game).

Couldn't agree more, SloMo.

Rugby Saint II · 06-07-2015, 07:13 PM

Is this where we look up and see that the sky is falling?

burningmetal · 06-07-2015, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

So so year, bahahahaha. Are you kidding or just forgetful? I remember he had a phenom year that year so I went to check the stats.

68% completion, 4200 yards, 33 td's, and 7 int's

If that's so so, what's good? lol

He was a game manager, just as I said. 4200 yards is good (I said he did pretty well that year) but not great in this age of football, where almost no one is under 4000 yards anymore. There wasn't much of a down field attack. The simplified approach kept the turnovers down for a guy who, even when he was winning MVP's, was a turnover machine his whole career. Then he started getting beat up again, and it was over. Remember that?

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Report: New Orleans Saints concerned about decline in Drew Brees It's possible. We don't see Drew every day in practice like the coaches do. It's clear they're planning to move on from Brees due to drafting Grayson so I don't see how the article is all that far-fetched. foreverfan likes this.

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vtiger72 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 185	Re: Report: New Orleans Saints concerned about decline in Drew Brees The Saints have Brees signed for two more seasons. He should play up to his contract over the course of that time. The wise move is let him play out the deal and see where the market is for him. A lot can happen to any QB, let alone one at his point in his career, in two years. Brees should be fine over the life of his contract, and that should be all we should worry about.
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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: New Orleans Saints concerned about decline in Drew Brees Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 And Farve was a few plays short of a Super Bowl at what, 40? He had been in decline for years, and had that one so-so year with the vikings where he was asked to do something he had never done in his career... be a game manager. He had a top 10 defense, the best running back in the league, and the Vikings knew he was too old to be the gunslinger he was in Green Bay. He did pretty well, but he quickly broke down after the end of that season. Guys like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady almost never get hit. When you're getting into your mid to late 30's and you've been taking a beating for a couple years, you WILL decline. halloween 65 likes this.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Report: New Orleans Saints concerned about decline in Drew Brees Originally Posted by burningmetal He had been in decline for years, and had that one so-so year with the vikings where he was asked to do something he had never done in his career... be a game manager. He had a top 10 defense, the best running back in the league, and the Vikings knew he was too old to be the gunslinger he was in Green Bay. He did pretty well, but he quickly broke down after the end of that season. Guys like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady almost never get hit. When you're getting into your mid to late 30's and you've been taking a beating for a couple years, you WILL decline. So so year, bahahahaha. Are you kidding or just forgetful? I remember he had a phenom year that year so I went to check the stats. 68% completion, 4200 yards, 33 td's, and 7 int's If that's so so, what's good? lol

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Report: New Orleans Saints concerned about decline in Drew Brees Do guys like Manning & Brady almost never get hit because of their offensive lines (possibly in Brady's case) or because they know how to move in the pocket (as in Manning's case)? I don't think Manning has fused vertebrae or whatever because he almost never gets hit ... I think the reason guys like Brady/Manning/Brees are at the top of the game at their ages is simply because they know how to play (students of the game). AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and Audiotom like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: Report: New Orleans Saints concerned about decline in Drew Brees Originally Posted by SloMotion Do guys like Manning & Brady almost never get hit because of their offensive lines (possibly in Brady's case) or because they know how to move in the pocket (as in Manning's case)? I don't think Manning has fused vertebrae or whatever because he almost never gets hit ... I think the reason guys like Brady/Manning/Brees are at the top of the game at their ages is simply because they know how to play (students of the game). Couldn't agree more, SloMo. SloMotion likes this.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: New Orleans Saints concerned about decline in Drew Brees Originally Posted by spkb25 So so year, bahahahaha. Are you kidding or just forgetful? I remember he had a phenom year that year so I went to check the stats. 68% completion, 4200 yards, 33 td's, and 7 int's If that's so so, what's good? lol He was a game manager, just as I said. 4200 yards is good (I said he did pretty well that year) but not great in this age of football, where almost no one is under 4000 yards anymore. There wasn't much of a down field attack. The simplified approach kept the turnovers down for a guy who, even when he was winning MVP's, was a turnover machine his whole career. Then he started getting beat up again, and it was over. Remember that?

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