To all Brooks' Bashers.

ScottyRo · 01-31-2005, 05:43 PM

Brooks is a woman and has a 36D bust.

I\'m pretty sure his trade value with fans in San Fran is going up this very minute.

LongTimeFan · 01-31-2005, 05:48 PM

You brought up some good points Gumbo

JKool · 01-31-2005, 05:50 PM

okay-even though I don\'t totally agree..i\'ll agree with this--so either 1. we get into the playoffs or 2. we get a high draft pick-but atleast we won\'t be lukewarm anymore.

No. We could draft a QB who carries our team to another 8-8 season. I call false dichotomy here.

Given the rate at which 1st round QBs succeed, we are roughly 30% likely to get a bust (think Rick Mirer, Akili Smith, etc.). Furthermore, even if we get a guy who will be better than Brooks, my analysis in another thread (which I won\'t repeat here), demonstrates that statistically speaking our new guy will be worse than Brooks for the next two seasons.

I understand the intangibles arguments and that people are tired of Brooks stuff, but, again statistically speaking, you guys are betting on a horse that is both unproven and overwhelming likely to not be good for a couple of years.

I\'d like to see more consideration of proven QBs - like Brees - rather than this speculation (unfounded statistically) that a rookie could make it happen for us. There just isn\'t reason to believe that (unless a MUCH MORE detailed argument for particular rookies is given - which it hasn\'t).

[Edited on 31/1/2005 by JKool]

JKool · 01-31-2005, 05:53 PM

PS - Scotty, I like the new avatar.

BrooksMustGo · 01-31-2005, 05:59 PM

a 36D bust

It is taking every ounce of self control I have right now NOT to post a photo.

JKool · 01-31-2005, 06:07 PM

Should I start the chant?

Bust... Bust... Bust...

Do it, BMG, do it. (Double entendre intended.)

ScottyRo · 01-31-2005, 06:09 PM

a 36D bust

It is taking every ounce of self control I have right now NOT to post a photo.

Things are about to get ugly!

Thanks JK. I know you weren\'t fishing for compliments, but I have to say you are making some highly intelligent points on this thread. No way I could tackle it that well. You\'re doing the \"Militant Moderates\" proud. (Sounds better than \"The Fencers\")

JKool · 01-31-2005, 06:13 PM

Scotty, I\'m not sure how we ended up on a team, but I\'ll take it. My sunshiner days have passed, but I did enjoy them. However, those moonshiner types scare me a bit - I think they party a lot...

saintswhodi · 01-31-2005, 06:39 PM

Aaawww, you didn\'t like the Fencers? :P

ScottyRo · 01-31-2005, 06:53 PM

Scotty, I\'m not sure how we ended up on a team, but I\'ll take it. My sunshiner days have passed, but I did enjoy them. However, those moonshiner types scare me a bit - I think they party a lot...

Reminds me of a song: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right...and I\'m stuck in the middle with you.

01-31-2005, 05:43 PM	#21
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	To all Brooks' Bashers. Brooks is a woman and has a 36D bust. I\'m pretty sure his trade value with fans in San Fran is going up this very minute.

01-31-2005, 05:48 PM	#22
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	To all Brooks' Bashers. You brought up some good points Gumbo

01-31-2005, 05:50 PM	#23
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	To all Brooks' Bashers. okay-even though I don\'t totally agree..i\'ll agree with this--so either 1. we get into the playoffs or 2. we get a high draft pick-but atleast we won\'t be lukewarm anymore. No. We could draft a QB who carries our team to another 8-8 season. I call false dichotomy here. Given the rate at which 1st round QBs succeed, we are roughly 30% likely to get a bust (think Rick Mirer, Akili Smith, etc.). Furthermore, even if we get a guy who will be better than Brooks, my analysis in another thread (which I won\'t repeat here), demonstrates that statistically speaking our new guy will be worse than Brooks for the next two seasons. I understand the intangibles arguments and that people are tired of Brooks stuff, but, again statistically speaking, you guys are betting on a horse that is both unproven and overwhelming likely to not be good for a couple of years. I\'d like to see more consideration of proven QBs - like Brees - rather than this speculation (unfounded statistically) that a rookie could make it happen for us. There just isn\'t reason to believe that (unless a MUCH MORE detailed argument for particular rookies is given - which it hasn\'t). [Edited on 31/1/2005 by JKool]
	"... I was beating them with my eyes the whole game..." - Aaron Brooks

01-31-2005, 05:53 PM	#24
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	To all Brooks' Bashers. PS - Scotty, I like the new avatar.

01-31-2005, 05:59 PM	#25
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	To all Brooks' Bashers. a 36D bust It is taking every ounce of self control I have right now NOT to post a photo.

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01-31-2005, 06:07 PM	#26
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	To all Brooks' Bashers. Should I start the chant? Bust... Bust... Bust... Do it, BMG, do it. (Double entendre intended.)

01-31-2005, 06:09 PM	#27
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	To all Brooks' Bashers. a 36D bust It is taking every ounce of self control I have right now NOT to post a photo. Things are about to get ugly! Thanks JK. I know you weren\'t fishing for compliments, but I have to say you are making some highly intelligent points on this thread. No way I could tackle it that well. You\'re doing the \"Militant Moderates\" proud. (Sounds better than \"The Fencers\")

01-31-2005, 06:13 PM	#28
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	To all Brooks' Bashers. Scotty, I\'m not sure how we ended up on a team, but I\'ll take it. My sunshiner days have passed, but I did enjoy them. However, those moonshiner types scare me a bit - I think they party a lot...

01-31-2005, 06:39 PM	#29
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	To all Brooks' Bashers. Aaawww, you didn\'t like the Fencers? :P

01-31-2005, 06:53 PM	#30
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	To all Brooks' Bashers. Scotty, I\'m not sure how we ended up on a team, but I\'ll take it. My sunshiner days have passed, but I did enjoy them. However, those moonshiner types scare me a bit - I think they party a lot... Reminds me of a song: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right...and I\'m stuck in the middle with you.