Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist

Papa Voodoo · 07-14-2015, 11:23 AM

"In some ways, the French had a similar outlook, imagining a society where class was more important than race and in which everyone was entitled to fair treatment, provided they had been baptized into the Catholic Church. For all its harshness, the French Code Noir, adopted in 1685, included articles protecting the rights of freed slaves, which were essentially the same as those of whites, with the exception that they could not vote, hold public office, or marry a white person. While generally, the French, Spanish, and Portuguese codes treated slaves and free blacks less harshly and offered greater legal protection than did Protestant nations, in practice, local conditions such as slave revolts and the distance of the colonies from central administrative control probably more directly affected their experiences.. The French were also more tolerant of racial mixing, especially in sparsely settled frontier societies like Louisiana, where there were significantly fewer white women than men. At the same time, they developed elaborate color categories to define the results of that mixing."

RaginCajun83 · 07-14-2015, 11:43 AM

"provided they had been baptized into the Catholic Church"

always read the fine print

jnormand · 07-14-2015, 12:15 PM

It's not just this whole fleur deal or the flag. It's society as a whole. Anything or anyone "offensive" is now publicly torn apart by media and civil rights groups.

This started several years ago. Soon nothing will have the word "God" in it. This country is failing because its trying to be politically correct about everything. And while doing so, its weakening its people, government and belief system.

I'm glad I won't be around to see this country destroy itself.

RaginCajun83 · 07-14-2015, 12:24 PM

I might not see it but my son will, I don't want to even imagne the world he will see when he's my age

jeanpierre · 07-15-2015, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

How many generations of Native Americans were slaughtered under the Stars and Stripes?

How many years did slavery sit in the shadow of the Stars and Stripes?

For the gabillionth time, the South did not fight the civil war for SLAVERY. During the civil war, the North had SLAVES too. (I will not argue this point with anyone. Do some REAL research, other than movies)

The Klan has bastardized the Stars and Bars. They turned it into a symbol of hate.

I had family that faught for the South and the North. I pisses me off to see the KKK using a flag that my family faught under. It degrades what they did. It cheapen's what my family did when a picture of Hank Williams Jr or a 12 point buck or a large mouth bass is put on that flag.

Do I own a "Confederate" flag? No, I don't. But I should the right to own one and fly it if I want too.

I say instead of banning it; why not take ownership in it? Take it back from the KKK, intead of giving them power over it. Stop letting these so called leaders of our Nation divide us.

ps: If this offends you.... get over yourself.

Well done, Sapper...

saintfan · 07-15-2015, 01:39 PM

This is a means to an end. The battlefield isn't the 'Confederate' flag. The battlefield is America. One small step at a time, and it's been happening, well, truly from the beginning, but the effort to stamp out "America" really increased at the turn of the 20th Century. See the forest...

Consider too what dumping wads of Iranian Oil into the marketplace will do, and then ask yourself if this latest deal has any substance, really, beyond that...oh and the timing, don't forget the timing.

Please look closely at the dancing elephant while I go and do other sinister things...

hagan714 · 07-15-2015, 04:15 PM

The National Convention (the more radical assembly of the Jacobins that replace the Legislative Assembly in France) finally voted to end slavery in all the French colonies on February 4, 1794. Thousands of whites fled the island, and even the Mulattoes were not pleased. Many owned slaves themselves and were opposed to the move.

Slavery and the French Revolution

then there are these fact

- The Atlantic slave traders, ordered by trade volume, were: the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Spanish, and the Dutch Empire.

- Slavery was first abolished in Europe by the French Republic in 1794

- At least ten centuries of slavery for the benefit of the Muslim countries (from the ninth to the nineteenth).

- There is evidence that enslaved people from some African states were exported to other states in Africa. Europeans usually bought enslaved people who were captured in endemic warfare between African states.Some Africans had made a business out of capturing Africans from neighboring ethnic groups or war captives and selling them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlant...de#cite_ref-23

Look if we all want to go over board on this topic everyone appears to be guilty one way or another.

The Fleur-de-Lis is is "flower of the lily."

The Roman Catholic Church ascribed the lily as the special emblem of the Virgin Mary.

Due to its three "petals," the fleur-de-lis has also been used to represent the Holy Trinity

Supertek · 07-16-2015, 08:25 AM

I agree Hagan that is what all people seem to forget is the true history.I think that slavery would have been abolished even if the South had won the war. This was not exclusive to blacks as many white or other races were placed into slavery many times in history. As stated above the truth is that blacks sold their own people into slavery. As one tribe conquered another they sold their captives to the British, Portuguese, Arabs, French and others for a bottle of gin. Yes slavery is not right but lets be truthful about its origin.

xan · 07-16-2015, 01:07 PM

At the risk of weighing in on something I consider to be on the same level as power rankings,

This thread is gay.

saintfan · 07-16-2015, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by xan

At the risk of weighing in on something I consider to be on the same level as power rankings,

This thread is gay.

It even has one of these:

07-14-2015, 11:23 AM	#31
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist "In some ways, the French had a similar outlook, imagining a society where class was more important than race and in which everyone was entitled to fair treatment, provided they had been baptized into the Catholic Church. For all its harshness, the French Code Noir, adopted in 1685, included articles protecting the rights of freed slaves, which were essentially the same as those of whites, with the exception that they could not vote, hold public office, or marry a white person. While generally, the French, Spanish, and Portuguese codes treated slaves and free blacks less harshly and offered greater legal protection than did Protestant nations, in practice, local conditions such as slave revolts and the distance of the colonies from central administrative control probably more directly affected their experiences.. The French were also more tolerant of racial mixing, especially in sparsely settled frontier societies like Louisiana, where there were significantly fewer white women than men. At the same time, they developed elaborate color categories to define the results of that mixing."

07-14-2015, 11:43 AM	#32
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist "provided they had been baptized into the Catholic Church" always read the fine print SapperSaint likes this.

07-14-2015, 12:15 PM	#33
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist It's not just this whole fleur deal or the flag. It's society as a whole. Anything or anyone "offensive" is now publicly torn apart by media and civil rights groups. This started several years ago. Soon nothing will have the word "God" in it. This country is failing because its trying to be politically correct about everything. And while doing so, its weakening its people, government and belief system. I'm glad I won't be around to see this country destroy itself. SapperSaint, TXGSP and frydaddy like this.

07-14-2015, 12:24 PM	#34
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist I might not see it but my son will, I don't want to even imagne the world he will see when he's my age SapperSaint and arsaint like this.

07-15-2015, 12:27 AM	#35
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Originally Posted by SapperSaint How many generations of Native Americans were slaughtered under the Stars and Stripes? How many years did slavery sit in the shadow of the Stars and Stripes? For the gabillionth time, the South did not fight the civil war for SLAVERY. During the civil war, the North had SLAVES too. (I will not argue this point with anyone. Do some REAL research, other than movies) The Klan has bastardized the Stars and Bars. They turned it into a symbol of hate. I had family that faught for the South and the North. I pisses me off to see the KKK using a flag that my family faught under. It degrades what they did. It cheapen's what my family did when a picture of Hank Williams Jr or a 12 point buck or a large mouth bass is put on that flag. Do I own a "Confederate" flag? No, I don't. But I should the right to own one and fly it if I want too. I say instead of banning it; why not take ownership in it? Take it back from the KKK, intead of giving them power over it. Stop letting these so called leaders of our Nation divide us. ps: If this offends you.... get over yourself. Well done, Sapper... SapperSaint likes this.

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07-15-2015, 01:39 PM	#36
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist This is a means to an end. The battlefield isn't the 'Confederate' flag. The battlefield is America. One small step at a time, and it's been happening, well, truly from the beginning, but the effort to stamp out "America" really increased at the turn of the 20th Century. See the forest... Consider too what dumping wads of Iranian Oil into the marketplace will do, and then ask yourself if this latest deal has any substance, really, beyond that...oh and the timing, don't forget the timing. Please look closely at the dancing elephant while I go and do other sinister things... SapperSaint likes this.
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07-15-2015, 04:15 PM	#37
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist The National Convention (the more radical assembly of the Jacobins that replace the Legislative Assembly in France) finally voted to end slavery in all the French colonies on February 4, 1794. Thousands of whites fled the island, and even the Mulattoes were not pleased. Many owned slaves themselves and were opposed to the move. Slavery and the French Revolution then there are these fact - The Atlantic slave traders, ordered by trade volume, were: the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Spanish, and the Dutch Empire. - Slavery was first abolished in Europe by the French Republic in 1794 - At least ten centuries of slavery for the benefit of the Muslim countries (from the ninth to the nineteenth). - There is evidence that enslaved people from some African states were exported to other states in Africa. Europeans usually bought enslaved people who were captured in endemic warfare between African states.Some Africans had made a business out of capturing Africans from neighboring ethnic groups or war captives and selling them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlant...de#cite_ref-23 Look if we all want to go over board on this topic everyone appears to be guilty one way or another. The Fleur-de-Lis is is "flower of the lily." The Roman Catholic Church ascribed the lily as the special emblem of the Virgin Mary. Due to its three "petals," the fleur-de-lis has also been used to represent the Holy Trinity
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07-16-2015, 08:25 AM	#38
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist I agree Hagan that is what all people seem to forget is the true history.I think that slavery would have been abolished even if the South had won the war. This was not exclusive to blacks as many white or other races were placed into slavery many times in history. As stated above the truth is that blacks sold their own people into slavery. As one tribe conquered another they sold their captives to the British, Portuguese, Arabs, French and others for a bottle of gin. Yes slavery is not right but lets be truthful about its origin. frydaddy likes this.

07-16-2015, 01:07 PM	#39
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist At the risk of weighing in on something I consider to be on the same level as power rankings, This thread is gay. iceshack149 likes this.

07-16-2015, 02:30 PM	#40
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Originally Posted by xan At the risk of weighing in on something I consider to be on the same level as power rankings, This thread is gay. It even has one of these:

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