Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist

homerj07 · 07-11-2015, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Well, this is the unintended consequence of these actions...since people can be pretty much offended by anything

The confederate flag has a place in the history of this nation. I don't understand the logic of flying it from government buildings because they lost, but it should be displayed in museums, etc.

Some people may use it as a symbol of racism, but I do not find that to be the overriding theme of people who display it. They themselves may or may not be prejudice, but the reason for them flying the flag generally is an issue of pride of hailing from the south.

I agree the Confederate flag has a place in history.

BUT...I'm not sure what part of the south you live in, where I am for most people who fly it, wear it, whatever they are racist.

I get the heritage angle, I do. But once it was adopted by the klan and other racist groups is heritage it became a heritage of hatred and prejudice.

Look at the swastika. That is an ancient symbol used in many different incantations throughout history and the world as a religious symbol (Hindu temples throughout India) or a symbol of good luck (many including the Cherokee nation). Once the swastika became associated with the nazis and what they stand for... Well i hope you can see where i am going with this.

spkb25 · 07-11-2015, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by homerj07

I agree the Confederate flag has a place in history.

BUT...I'm not sure what part of the south you live in, where I am for most people who fly it, wear it, whatever they are racist.

I get the heritage angle, I do. But once it was adopted by the klan and other racist groups is heritage it became a heritage of hatred and prejudice.

Look at the swastika. That is an ancient symbol used in many different incantations throughout history and the world as a religious symbol (Hindu temples throughout India) or a symbol of good luck (many including the Cherokee nation). Once the swastika became associated with the nazis and what they stand for... Well i hope you can see where i am going with this.

I get where you're coming from.

Honestly, it was why I said 'They themselves may or may not be prejudice, but the reason for them flying the flag generally is an issue of pride of hailing from the south." So yeah, I get that people who wear it may be prejudice, some may even be racist (not synonymous terms even though they are portrayed to be), but I do not believe, nor have my interactions with these people indicated, that they wear it because they hate black people. They usually wear it because of where they are from. The fact that some may be prejudice or in some cases racist is not the reason they wear the flag or display it. Matter of fact, where they are from more than likely is cause for how they see things vs the reason they wear the flag. Now the KKK uniform, that to me is more akin to the Nazi symbol. I hope I am making sense.

We just disagree, which is okay. I think you're argument makes sense. It is logical, and noting wrong with you seeing things that way.

07-11-2015, 08:21 AM	#1
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Originally Posted by spkb25 Well, this is the unintended consequence of these actions...since people can be pretty much offended by anything The confederate flag has a place in the history of this nation. I don't understand the logic of flying it from government buildings because they lost, but it should be displayed in museums, etc. Some people may use it as a symbol of racism, but I do not find that to be the overriding theme of people who display it. They themselves may or may not be prejudice, but the reason for them flying the flag generally is an issue of pride of hailing from the south. I agree the Confederate flag has a place in history. BUT...I'm not sure what part of the south you live in, where I am for most people who fly it, wear it, whatever they are racist. I get the heritage angle, I do. But once it was adopted by the klan and other racist groups is heritage it became a heritage of hatred and prejudice. Look at the swastika. That is an ancient symbol used in many different incantations throughout history and the world as a religious symbol (Hindu temples throughout India) or a symbol of good luck (many including the Cherokee nation). Once the swastika became associated with the nazis and what they stand for... Well i hope you can see where i am going with this. ScottF, dam1953, darksoul35 and 1 others like this.
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07-11-2015, 06:16 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Originally Posted by homerj07 I agree the Confederate flag has a place in history. BUT...I'm not sure what part of the south you live in, where I am for most people who fly it, wear it, whatever they are racist. I get the heritage angle, I do. But once it was adopted by the klan and other racist groups is heritage it became a heritage of hatred and prejudice. Look at the swastika. That is an ancient symbol used in many different incantations throughout history and the world as a religious symbol (Hindu temples throughout India) or a symbol of good luck (many including the Cherokee nation). Once the swastika became associated with the nazis and what they stand for... Well i hope you can see where i am going with this. I get where you're coming from. Honestly, it was why I said 'They themselves may or may not be prejudice, but the reason for them flying the flag generally is an issue of pride of hailing from the south." So yeah, I get that people who wear it may be prejudice, some may even be racist (not synonymous terms even though they are portrayed to be), but I do not believe, nor have my interactions with these people indicated, that they wear it because they hate black people. They usually wear it because of where they are from. The fact that some may be prejudice or in some cases racist is not the reason they wear the flag or display it. Matter of fact, where they are from more than likely is cause for how they see things vs the reason they wear the flag. Now the KKK uniform, that to me is more akin to the Nazi symbol. I hope I am making sense. We just disagree, which is okay. I think you're argument makes sense. It is logical, and noting wrong with you seeing things that way. homerj07 likes this.
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