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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Why are y'all getting so riled up over click bait? Click bait? Have you been watching the world around us lately? This is real life happening, not some TMZ gossip topic....
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Merces Letifer
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Originally Posted by burningmetal
*Sees link... sees CSC... is confused by comment... *![]()
I watch the world around me all the time. Now, I don't always read about it from alleged "journalistic" sources, and when I do, I prefer Knob Creek, and take it as mere entertainment. |
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper
Look pal, I'm not looking for a senseless argument. I have no idea what "CSC" stands for, nor do I have a clue what Knob Creek is. Again, you make it sound as if we're a bunch of idiots watching TMZ or reading a rag magazine.![]()
These things we're talking about are actually happening. This is not speculation. People are taking offense to every freaking thing, and have either removed, or are in the process of trying to get flags or symbols removed. And we all know what those things are, it's been all over news. Some of it has to do with slavery, some of it is gay rights activists trying to remove monuments with the ten commandments on them, among other things. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Canal Street Chronicles.
And you know what? That little tidbit tells me all I need to know.
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper
I almost forgot how condescending you were. But back to the point, of course atheists want to remove the ten commandments, aswell. That goes without saying. And, as with any person or group of people who don't believe in the bible there are homosexuals included in that, because what used to be the separation of church and state long stood in their way. It clearly doesn't anymore. Some of these people claim to believe in God, yet simultaneously (somehow) don't believe in what the bible says. ![]()
Now I used the ten commandments as one reference, but there are countless other christian values being thrown out the window due to pressure from activists of all kinds. In the spirit of freedom, I'm all for people having a choice. I might not agree with everyone, but everyone should get to make up their own mind. What I'm not ok with is people trying to use something like marriage for something it was never intended for, and turning around and saying that we MUST BY LAW accept this. We didn't get a vote. We got it rammed down our throats. Do I take offense to that? You're damn right I do. How the hell do you expect me to respond? You seem to lack a great deal of perspective here in saying that I'm taking more offense. Does a rebel flag infringe your rights? You're free to love it or hate it. Gay marriage makes a mockery of the very essence of marriage. And before you say "well that's just your opinion, not everyone believes in the same things you do", that is why we had the separation of church and state in the first place. All I ask is to be able to keep the integrity within the things I believe in, and you can do whatever you think is right. The two should not collide. And if you think that none of this is real when we can plainly see it on our televisions or, in some cases, right in front of our faces, then I guess no news service is legitimate enough. I didn't form my opinions or observations based on this one article. I didn't even remember that it was canal street chronicles, hence the reason I had no idea what CSC stood for. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Merces Letifer
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Originally Posted by burningmetal
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Too much rambling there, and frankly this is not the place to discuss this... but what the heck: The bible is NOT the U.S. Constitution. And no, you do not get to vote on the interpretation of the U.S. Constitution. It is up to the courts to interpret it. I believe the U.S. Constitution says something about "all men created equal" or something like that... funny, back then they didn't think of adding women to that line; imagine what would've happened if women's suffrage had been put to a vote... You don't want anyone imposing their beliefs and morality on you, but you have absolutely no issue imposing your beliefs and morality on other people, "because it is in the bible". Makes sense. If you truly believe in what the bible says, then I'd suggest reading Mark 12:17. Yes, the part about giving to Caesar what it is Caesar's. Speaking of "making a mockery the essence of marriage" and "not what's intended for", I think it is the very high divorce rate and the rate of domestic violence (to the tune of 1 woman beaten every 9 seconds) that make much more a mockery of marriage than people of the same sex getting married. I guess God intended husbands to beat their wives and leave them :\ Oh, and fun fact: on average, lesbian couples have longer, more monogamous relationships than man-woman or man-man relationships. I do not have an issue with anyone's inalienable right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, no matter what an old book written centuries ago by who knows who in a land far, far away. |
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper
You are without a doubt the biggest troll on this site. What part of separation of church and state did you not understand? I made it clear people can do whatever they want within their own boundaries. Marriage was created for people to make their relationship legitimate and acceptable to God. You can disagree with that, and not believe in God all you want, but that is why it came into existence. Since that time it has been made into whatever people want to think it is.![]()
If you are gay and want to be in a relationship, do what you want, but you don't need to be married. I'm white, but what if I said I want to be considered a Native American so I can try to qualify for some of that trust fund money? That would be pretty dumb. Well with homosexuals, they don't want to worry themselves with morality but they want to get in on the benefits. Yet there are other ways of getting those benefits. This is about the "progressive" movement pushing their way through all remaining barriers. It really has less to do with gays as it does for the overall movement, and I've mentioned that before on this site. You say I'm pushing my beliefs on others? Negative. Again, I am very clear that while I don't support everything that people believe in, I'm not asking them to bend over backwards for me, just don't infringe on things that are sacred for me and those who share the same faith as me. I have news for you, there is only one truth. You can interpret what you believe to be true in many ways, but there can only be one truth. So what kind of christian would I be if I said "well it says this in the bible, but I guess I can make an exception for you"? That's wishy washy, and dishonest. If you think my words are rambling, then that says a lot about your comprehension skills. We don't vote on interpretation of the constitution? What is there to interpret? There were certain checks and balances in there to prevent the court from just arbitrarily deciding what law is or what it means. Individual states were supposed to have their own say. I'VE VOTED AGAINST SEX MARRIAGE IN THIS STATE. And now, suddenly, the states have no voice? Good luck coming up with a lie to explain that away. I never said the Bible was the constitution. But the constitution had a law... what was it again? Oh yeah, that ole separation of church and state again. If you enjoy being controlled by the courts, good luck to you. And lastly, divorce rates have nothing to do with the "essence of marriage" I spoke of. People who cheat on each other or beat each other or in violation of many things. You think I support those people? Sin comes in many forms, and it's all equally evil. No one is perfect, but we should strive to be. That means when you make a mistake, you own up, learn from it and repent. People who refuse to acknowledge their sins can not be forgiven. And those people are everywhere, unfortunately. If you don't believe in God in the first place, it will never even occur to you. Why don't you just for a moment consider that God is real. Would it matter how long ago the Bible was written? If it is the word of God, does it become outdated? What if I tell you the stories of your ancestors are outdated and that no one should believe it? Time can't bend truth, only people choose to do so. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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