Is the flour De Lis Offensive.

Tobias-Reiper · 07-16-2015, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I almost forgot how condescending you were. But back to the point, of course atheists want to remove the ten commandments, aswell. That goes without saying. And, as with any person or group of people who don't believe in the bible there are homosexuals included in that, because what used to be the separation of church and state long stood in their way. It clearly doesn't anymore. Some of these people claim to believe in God, yet simultaneously (somehow) don't believe in what the bible says.

Now I used the ten commandments as one reference, but there are countless other christian values being thrown out the window due to pressure from activists of all kinds. In the spirit of freedom, I'm all for people having a choice. I might not agree with everyone, but everyone should get to make up their own mind. What I'm not ok with is people trying to use something like marriage for something it was never intended for, and turning around and saying that we MUST BY LAW accept this. We didn't get a vote. We got it rammed down our throats.

Do I take offense to that? You're damn right I do. How the hell do you expect me to respond? You seem to lack a great deal of perspective here in saying that I'm taking more offense. Does a rebel flag infringe your rights? You're free to love it or hate it. Gay marriage makes a mockery of the very essence of marriage. And before you say "well that's just your opinion, not everyone believes in the same things you do", that is why we had the separation of church and state in the first place. All I ask is to be able to keep the integrity within the things I believe in, and you can do whatever you think is right. The two should not collide.

And if you think that none of this is real when we can plainly see it on our televisions or, in some cases, right in front of our faces, then I guess no news service is legitimate enough. I didn't form my opinions or observations based on this one article. I didn't even remember that it was canal street chronicles, hence the reason I had no idea what CSC stood for.

Too much rambling there, and frankly this is not the place to discuss this... but what the heck:

The bible is NOT the U.S. Constitution. And no, you do not get to vote on the interpretation of the U.S. Constitution. It is up to the courts to interpret it.

I believe the U.S. Constitution says something about "all men created equal" or something like that... funny, back then they didn't think of adding women to that line; imagine what would've happened if women's suffrage had been put to a vote...

You don't want anyone imposing their beliefs and morality on you, but you have absolutely no issue imposing your beliefs and morality on other people, "because it is in the bible". Makes sense.

If you truly believe in what the bible says, then I'd suggest reading Mark 12:17. Yes, the part about giving to Caesar what it is Caesar's.

Speaking of "making a mockery the essence of marriage" and "not what's intended for", I think it is the very high divorce rate and the rate of domestic violence (to the tune of 1 woman beaten every 9 seconds) that make much more a mockery of marriage than people of the same sex getting married. I guess God intended husbands to beat their wives and leave them :\
Oh, and fun fact: on average, lesbian couples have longer, more monogamous relationships than man-woman or man-man relationships.

I do not have an issue with anyone's inalienable right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, no matter what an old book written centuries ago by who knows who in a land far, far away.

07-16-2015, 10:55 PM	#18
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Is the flour De Lis Offensive. Originally Posted by burningmetal I almost forgot how condescending you were. But back to the point, of course atheists want to remove the ten commandments, aswell. That goes without saying. And, as with any person or group of people who don't believe in the bible there are homosexuals included in that, because what used to be the separation of church and state long stood in their way. It clearly doesn't anymore. Some of these people claim to believe in God, yet simultaneously (somehow) don't believe in what the bible says. Now I used the ten commandments as one reference, but there are countless other christian values being thrown out the window due to pressure from activists of all kinds. In the spirit of freedom, I'm all for people having a choice. I might not agree with everyone, but everyone should get to make up their own mind. What I'm not ok with is people trying to use something like marriage for something it was never intended for, and turning around and saying that we MUST BY LAW accept this. We didn't get a vote. We got it rammed down our throats. Do I take offense to that? You're damn right I do. How the hell do you expect me to respond? You seem to lack a great deal of perspective here in saying that I'm taking more offense. Does a rebel flag infringe your rights? You're free to love it or hate it. Gay marriage makes a mockery of the very essence of marriage. And before you say "well that's just your opinion, not everyone believes in the same things you do", that is why we had the separation of church and state in the first place. All I ask is to be able to keep the integrity within the things I believe in, and you can do whatever you think is right. The two should not collide. And if you think that none of this is real when we can plainly see it on our televisions or, in some cases, right in front of our faces, then I guess no news service is legitimate enough. I didn't form my opinions or observations based on this one article. I didn't even remember that it was canal street chronicles, hence the reason I had no idea what CSC stood for. Too much rambling there, and frankly this is not the place to discuss this... but what the heck: The bible is NOT the U.S. Constitution. And no, you do not get to vote on the interpretation of the U.S. Constitution. It is up to the courts to interpret it. I believe the U.S. Constitution says something about "all men created equal" or something like that... funny, back then they didn't think of adding women to that line; imagine what would've happened if women's suffrage had been put to a vote... You don't want anyone imposing their beliefs and morality on you, but you have absolutely no issue imposing your beliefs and morality on other people, "because it is in the bible". Makes sense. If you truly believe in what the bible says, then I'd suggest reading Mark 12:17. Yes, the part about giving to Caesar what it is Caesar's. Speaking of "making a mockery the essence of marriage" and "not what's intended for", I think it is the very high divorce rate and the rate of domestic violence (to the tune of 1 woman beaten every 9 seconds) that make much more a mockery of marriage than people of the same sex getting married. I guess God intended husbands to beat their wives and leave them :\ Oh, and fun fact: on average, lesbian couples have longer, more monogamous relationships than man-woman or man-man relationships. I do not have an issue with anyone's inalienable right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, no matter what an old book written centuries ago by who knows who in a land far, far away.
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