Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette
 

POS Good Riddance

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Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette
 

Unless you have zero secondary.

Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette
 

cap hit will all be about when he signs else where and for how much for. he will probably signed cheap and that will absorb some of the hit.

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We get money back. I'm ecstatic.

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Knowing that there is a huge difference between the cap number and the actual money that owners have, I still don't get after all these years why a team should take a cap hit for releasing a player. I get having to still pay them, that's not a problem for these owners. But it shouldn't count against the cap once the player is off the team.

The only reason to implement a dumb rule like that is if you think it's preventing teams from some sort of unfair advantage. Just think about it, though... You sign players that you want, whom you can afford, so the last thing you want to do is turn around and release them. But when something like this Galette crap comes up you really don't have much of a choice. Where's the advantage? You've lost the player and you're still paying them, but yet you still have to take the cap hit for a player you don't have? Dumb.

All that aside, I definitely support the decision by the Saints.

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Uh, yeeah, we just avoided the distraction is what we did. Look at that circus. That dudes done, and I think based off of that video we should be able to get some money back.

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Unfortunately, this isn't going to be the case Hagan. There's no offset language to the guaranteed bonus money that's been paid to JR. All the money paid is bonus money and last year's salary.

The team is on the hook for the entire amount. It'll be spread out over two years. But it was dead cap money in some form the moment JR signed the contract.

SFIAH

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The cap hit is required to keep teams honest under the salary cap. Dead money that is owed against the cap is money that has already been paid to the player (in a guaranteed signing bonus).

If teams could cut a player and not owe the money, then everyone would pay players huge signing bonuses, cut players midway though the contract, then never have to account for the money against the cap. So...
Exactly. That's why it's in place.
The threat of having to pay back that money is designed to encourage teams to honor long term contracts for a longer period of time.

Well the Saints really structured JR contract as a two year contract with a reasonable dead money hit with a June 1 cut after the 2nd year. Just never got to that point.

SFIAH

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Great stuff, SFIAH...

But the contract was premature; and after announcing the move to a 3-4 base, why sign someone who's a poor fit?!?

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I completely agree with the premature nature of the extension. It's always a gamble. The Saints came up craps on this one.

SFIAH

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Between the violence (domestic violence cases and a pre-game fight with Brandon Deaderick last season) and the rumored drug use... Good riddance.

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We don't need people like you.

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I appreciate you trying to clarify that, but I already know why the cap is in place. My point is the "why" doesn't make sense. I think you missed the major point of my post. I said that I get that you have to still pay them. But it shouldn't count against the team's cap if they aren't playing for you. Owners are billionaires, they can pay it, but the cap is very limited in comparison to what the owners can actually afford.

So go ahead and pay the player, but when you cut him it shouldn't count against the cap. Where is the advantage of signing a player to a bunch of money and then releasing him? He doesn't play for you anymore, so it's not like you're stealing him. And he still gets his money.

You know what they call that in other sports? Normal. Because they either don't have salary caps or allow you to pay a luxury tax to go over it, which is what a lot of teams do in other sports. This is why the cap, (specifically the NFL's version) itself, was and is a horrible idea.

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All of his mouth running and bad mouthing, along with that video, and his ongoing questionable off the field choices are going to make him finding another job, difficult.

He's immature, and despite his talent as a pass rusher, I think he is about to find the job market with slim to no suitors.

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Let me help you explain the why. In the NFL, the aim is for parity. They do not want the rich owners to outspend the others. This way a team in a market like Green Bay can compete with a team in New York.

If cut players' money did not count against the cap, an owner like Jerry Jones would sign a player to a large contract but with a great deal of it in signing bonus. Then he cut that player a couple years into the deal without any hit and spend a huge amount to do it all again. The salary cap would become a scam.

If that's the system you want, do away with the cap altogether. But if so, do not complain when rich owners buy their way to a championship over and over again.

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This was expected with all the things going on with him off the field and even on the way to the field. It's a shame it had to come to this, but they had to part ways with him to stay credible.

I thought he was overpaid and said as much when he was given the extension, but they'll just have to eat the dead money and learn from it.

To me Galette never seemed dominant, a one trick pony, who never seemed to show up when it mattered. It's funny how people are talking about the 22 sacks in 2 seasons, and on that basis alone deem him a top-tier pass rusher - clearly they haven't seen many Saints' games.

And if anyone needed any more convincing this was the right move - just look how classless his reaction was to his release.

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So what cap does it free up this year and how hard is the hit for next?

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frees up 100K this year and 12.1 million in dead money next year.

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I feel warm and fuzzy right now.

Wow.

Who'd have thunk it?

/hugs all

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Ouch! He must of been a real cancer if they are willing to eat 12.1 million in 2016 and lose 12 sacks a year. So that puts us up to roughly 155 million next year with out top 53. Wonder what the cap line will be......

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Which in my opinion is why it was the right decision.

You do not flush that much money down the toilet unless you are 100% positive that it is without question the correct decision, from Benson all the way down the chain of command.

My guess is even the waterboys wanted his ass gone. And if our own Saintfan got his wish and was employed as a waterboy, he'd agree too.

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God I hope so. But you know there will be some ass cock low down scum team that will sign him NYJ, Failclowns, Pats

It's unfortunate but he will get signed. The league should have the power to stop that :lightsabres:

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I am Saintfan. I am a (wannabe) waterboy. It was time. Ever onward.

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Agreed. The really bad apples should just be banned from the league.

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They have that built into the process. A second time offender under domestic violence can be suspended for up to a year and has to petition to re-enter. Repeat offenders can be banned indefinitely.

While we are all pitch forks and such for Galette because his behavior has screwed the team, he has yet to be suspended even once by the league- though I am expecting it to happen.

There are two sides of this. One is the price the player must pay, but teams must also be vigilant about who they give lucrative contracts to.

The Saints aren't the first team to be burned on a deal like this and they won't be the last.

As the league ramps up the penalties, fewer and fewer teams will take the risk.

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But at the same time, he was already being investigated for the dismissed charges and then this video surfaces...

That's like being arrested and then arrested again before your trial date for the first time; should be a stiffer penalty than just 6 games

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In due time I think the league will implement some type of cap relief provision to the CBA when circumstances like this occur.

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I remember saying this should happen and got blasted in here

Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette
 

No... You got blasted for saying you hoped he got injured. Which is still f'ed up.

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I doubt it. The league wants teams penalized when this happens, that way they are reluctant to give deals to these players.

If teams have to take the cap hit when a player misbehaves and they cut him, then they will be cautious about signing players with past misconduct.

If the league implements salary cap relief in these situations, teams would not hesitate to give players like this big contracts knowing they can get the relief.

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Was that the Official Tarzan 2015 Trailer?
Where was Tarzan?

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Wow, I just don't know what to say about that.

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I don't think I've ever seen something like that in my life. I'm sure with social media, it will happen again... but damn. That being said, with the way the NFL is, that cannot be good for his career. The Saints are definitely right in letting him go. He and everyone he associates with are a trainwreck.

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Never seen anything like that in my life, what mistake it was giving that guy a huge amount of money.

Hopefully this "testimonial" he's written about our team keeps him out of the league.

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What. An. Ass...

Money, he'll soon find out, isn't everything.

He'll be cut from another team one day. He'll be in another altercation. He'll lose more and more respect.

Eventually Jr will only be surrounded by people who are ONLY about the money. And once it's gone, so he will be too.

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The things about SP are troubling.

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I don't know why, but I completely believe the Sean Payton stuff.

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I think their may be some truth to the Payton drug/alcohol abuse thing. I have suspected that for years and I have my reasons. That being said what a whiny *****. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole if I owned a team.