SP seemed pissed

The Dude · 08-07-2015, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

I hate to say this and I might get flamed, but I heard part of the press conference, and the way SP sounds is exactly the way other saints coaches have sounded towards the end of their tenure: haslett, mora and ditka. I dont remember Payton acting like that in his first several years w us.

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I can see what you mean. He seems frustrated to the point of exaustion.

Marlboro Man · 08-07-2015, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Anyone else get the feeling that the scrimmage did not go well and he is pissed? I did, and I get the feeling that Rob is gonna be out of a job

Dennis Allen is just as responsible as Ryan for that.

burningmetal · 08-08-2015, 12:12 AM

Dennis Allen was a train wreck of a head coach in Oakland, and while some might say that you can't judge him on that considering how bad that organization is, the fact is that he did not have a good defense when he was in Denver, either. When the guy left us everyone was sad. But what has he proven since then? Why do people feel like he's the DC in waiting? If those who believe this are right, then we'd be making a lateral move, at best.

I hope the defense plays great when the season starts and we don't have to talk about this again, but if they struggle and Rob does get fired, I sure hope they have a better plan than Dennis Allen. Just let him Coach the DB's.

QBREES9 · 08-08-2015, 12:21 AM

Get it fixed now, and not later. Like next year.

spkb25 · 08-08-2015, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Dennis Allen is just as responsible as Ryan for that.

I can't say you're right and I can't say you're wrong because I am not sure. He certainly plays a part. These problems existed last year. I remember that in games...that was the reason behind the simplified defense.

hagan714 · 08-08-2015, 09:45 AM

Rob is responsible for the organization of play calling, player substations and/or the lack of organization on the side line. The side line is his office.

he had the issue last year and its ugly head is showing up again this year. his office is a train wreck with some control issues. he needs to get this solved. Or hello 8-8 if we get lucky

excuses only go so far and this one is all his.

on the bright side there will be about half the amount of chickens running a muck in the hen house when the season begins. then we just need a rooster to keep them in line. Is Rob that roster? Or is Rob more of a fox in the hen house?

ask me at the end of 2015 season.

vtiger72 · 08-08-2015, 12:20 PM

I've said it before, but I'm not a fan of Ryan. The biggest problem with his exotic defenses is that often they confuse his own players as much as they are designed to confuse offenses.

This is especially problematic if injuries occur in the season. Chances are, these are just early issues with the guys picking up Ryan's scheme. However if the players aren't particularly smart or if there's injuries, it could get ugly.

My other concern is I read when Ryan went to Dallas, it was important for him to bring Eberflus with him as Eberflus was the one who taught the schemes to the players as Ryan designed them. Eberflus stayed in Dallas, and I wonder if that might cause Ryan issues here.

44Champs · 08-08-2015, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

so basically from what you all is saying, if our defense plays like this against a very sub par offense we would have a 3 game winning season. That's because I feel we may beat Carolina, atl, and tampa at least once. Everyone else its a "let us keep our fingers crossed", type of thing huh?

How did you come up with that? Dude, you NEVER make sense.

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RailBoss · 08-09-2015, 02:08 AM

Thursday night will be a good test against the Ravens. I will be there probably one of a few black shirts in the crowd. Usually becomes hard to see the game though when they start chucking the beer at us.

spkb25 · 08-09-2015, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

Thursday night will be a good test against the Ravens. I will be there probably one of a few black shirts in the crowd. Usually becomes hard to see the game though when they start chucking the beer at us.

Rail, if I wasn't in the process of switching careers I'd be there too! You and I are near each other. I am in Baltimore

08-07-2015, 11:39 PM	#31
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: SP seemed pissed Originally Posted by 44Champs I hate to say this and I might get flamed, but I heard part of the press conference, and the way SP sounds is exactly the way other saints coaches have sounded towards the end of their tenure: haslett, mora and ditka. I dont remember Payton acting like that in his first several years w us. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk I can see what you mean. He seems frustrated to the point of exaustion. 44Champs likes this.
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08-07-2015, 11:56 PM	#32
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: SP seemed pissed Originally Posted by spkb25 Anyone else get the feeling that the scrimmage did not go well and he is pissed? I did, and I get the feeling that Rob is gonna be out of a job Dennis Allen is just as responsible as Ryan for that.

08-08-2015, 12:12 AM	#33
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SP seemed pissed Dennis Allen was a train wreck of a head coach in Oakland, and while some might say that you can't judge him on that considering how bad that organization is, the fact is that he did not have a good defense when he was in Denver, either. When the guy left us everyone was sad. But what has he proven since then? Why do people feel like he's the DC in waiting? If those who believe this are right, then we'd be making a lateral move, at best. I hope the defense plays great when the season starts and we don't have to talk about this again, but if they struggle and Rob does get fired, I sure hope they have a better plan than Dennis Allen. Just let him Coach the DB's.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

08-08-2015, 12:21 AM	#34
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: SP seemed pissed Get it fixed now, and not later. Like next year.

08-08-2015, 09:21 AM	#35
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: SP seemed pissed Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Dennis Allen is just as responsible as Ryan for that. I can't say you're right and I can't say you're wrong because I am not sure. He certainly plays a part. These problems existed last year. I remember that in games...that was the reason behind the simplified defense.

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vtiger72 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 185	Re: SP seemed pissed I've said it before, but I'm not a fan of Ryan. The biggest problem with his exotic defenses is that often they confuse his own players as much as they are designed to confuse offenses. This is especially problematic if injuries occur in the season. Chances are, these are just early issues with the guys picking up Ryan's scheme. However if the players aren't particularly smart or if there's injuries, it could get ugly. My other concern is I read when Ryan went to Dallas, it was important for him to bring Eberflus with him as Eberflus was the one who taught the schemes to the players as Ryan designed them. Eberflus stayed in Dallas, and I wonder if that might cause Ryan issues here. Danno likes this.
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08-08-2015, 10:06 PM	#38
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: SP seemed pissed Originally Posted by teddybarexxx so basically from what you all is saying, if our defense plays like this against a very sub par offense we would have a 3 game winning season. That's because I feel we may beat Carolina, atl, and tampa at least once. Everyone else its a "let us keep our fingers crossed", type of thing huh? How did you come up with that? Dude, you NEVER make sense. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk spkb25 and SloMotion like this.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: SP seemed pissed Originally Posted by RailBoss Thursday night will be a good test against the Ravens. I will be there probably one of a few black shirts in the crowd. Usually becomes hard to see the game though when they start chucking the beer at us. Rail, if I wasn't in the process of switching careers I'd be there too! You and I are near each other. I am in Baltimore

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