Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL

jlaw8920 · 09-01-2015, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Another way to look at this; who have we played in the pre-season?

#2 ranked o-line
#7 ranked o-line
Our starting D-line dominated the PATs starters as well.

Then consider that our division has o-lines ranked in the bottom quarter of the league. Our D-line may be better than we think... I hope.

I agree that looks good for us. We had good run d and good pressure, but we desperately need some sacks.

jeanpierre · 09-01-2015, 10:06 PM

Unger and Armstead look like Elite...

Evans and Streif should rate Very Good...

If Lelito is anything lower than Average, I'll be surprised...

Boutte · 09-02-2015, 09:31 PM

Evans still looks strong to me. He's still got short range quickness and agility but he's a lot slower downfield than he used to be. He might not be All-Pro level anymore but he's still solid.

Streif was never a great athlete but his fundamentals are damn near perfect. Because of that we haven't seen any notable drop off due to age and I think guys like that tend to have long and effective careers even into their mid/late 30s.

Armstead and Unger are beasts.

Lelito, I really don't know. Can't say that I've seen enough to come to any conclusion.

As far the back-ups, including Peat, I have no clue.

burningmetal · 09-02-2015, 10:40 PM

Well if PFF says so, there's no reason to question it, right? I wonder if people read PFF articles to tell them who they should marry.

Cruize · 09-03-2015, 09:01 AM

Armstead has All-Pro ability. Needs to stay healthy.
Lelito will surprise.
Unger is easily the best C the Saints have had in a LONG time.
Evans will be solid. Better than most.
Strief is the most underrated T in the NFL.

As I've said before, what will help the OLine the most is Payton pounding the ball. Let the big guys smash the defenders. Make them fight off blocks and make tackles.

rezburna · 09-03-2015, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Projecting our offensive line this season...

Left Tackle

By all accounts from training camp, Terron Armstead should make the big leap this season to elite status. Thought he was underrated last season and handled Seattle's multiple front/personnel well...

Left Guard

Don't get the harshness and pessimism toward Tim Lelito. What were the expectations of an undrafted rookie free agent?!? He's had nowhere to go but up. All he's done is come and work his tail off and improve with every opportunity. Expect to see better play than we had from the overpaid Grubbs last season...

Center

Think any questions over what kind of player Max Under is going to be for the Saints were answered for fans on the Cooks Screen Touchdown against the Ravens in PreSeason. Expect him to return to All-Pro form...

Right Guart

All-Pro Right Guard Jahri Evans has set a high bar for himself over the years, but for me, he's the biggest concern I've got going into the 2015 season. Age, Wear and The Big Mo look like they've got Jahri having one foot out the door; fingers crossed here...

Right Tackle

Zach Strief is the poster child for NFL overachievers; he's proof that hard work, character and leadership can forge a lasting NFL career; I cringe watching him maneuver in space despite his reliable effectiveness; while rookie Andrus Peat has gotten off to a slower start than expected in training camp, I still expect youth to be served by season's end...

http://blackandgold.com/blogs/jeanpi...sive-line.html

Good analysis fam.

Danno · 09-03-2015, 09:44 AM

Bobby and Hokie made a great point last week on WWL (yea I know, I was shocked too)

Discussing Evans and long term vets in general, they just don't have the same effort in camp that they do when the season starts. When the season starts they turn it up several notches. Almost all veterans do it.

jeanpierre · 09-03-2015, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Bobby and Hokie made a great point last week on WWL (yea I know, I was shocked too)

Originally Posted by Danno

Discussing Evans and long term vets in general, they just don't have the same effort in camp that they do when the season starts. When the season starts they turn it up several notches. Almost all veterans do it.

True. Good Point.

09-01-2015, 04:58 PM	#11
jlaw8920 100th Post Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 123	Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL Originally Posted by blackangold Another way to look at this; who have we played in the pre-season? #2 ranked o-line #7 ranked o-line Our starting D-line dominated the PATs starters as well. Then consider that our division has o-lines ranked in the bottom quarter of the league. Our D-line may be better than we think... I hope. I agree that looks good for us. We had good run d and good pressure, but we desperately need some sacks.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL Unger and Armstead look like Elite... Evans and Streif should rate Very Good... If Lelito is anything lower than Average, I'll be surprised... Danno and Crusader like this.
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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL Evans still looks strong to me. He's still got short range quickness and agility but he's a lot slower downfield than he used to be. He might not be All-Pro level anymore but he's still solid. Streif was never a great athlete but his fundamentals are damn near perfect. Because of that we haven't seen any notable drop off due to age and I think guys like that tend to have long and effective careers even into their mid/late 30s. Armstead and Unger are beasts. Lelito, I really don't know. Can't say that I've seen enough to come to any conclusion. As far the back-ups, including Peat, I have no clue. Crusader and SloMotion like this.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL Well if PFF says so, there's no reason to question it, right? I wonder if people read PFF articles to tell them who they should marry.

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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL Armstead has All-Pro ability. Needs to stay healthy. Lelito will surprise. Unger is easily the best C the Saints have had in a LONG time. Evans will be solid. Better than most. Strief is the most underrated T in the NFL. As I've said before, what will help the OLine the most is Payton pounding the ball. Let the big guys smash the defenders. Make them fight off blocks and make tackles.
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL Originally Posted by jeanpierre Projecting our offensive line this season... Left Tackle By all accounts from training camp, Terron Armstead should make the big leap this season to elite status. Thought he was underrated last season and handled Seattle's multiple front/personnel well... Left Guard Don't get the harshness and pessimism toward Tim Lelito. What were the expectations of an undrafted rookie free agent?!? He's had nowhere to go but up. All he's done is come and work his tail off and improve with every opportunity. Expect to see better play than we had from the overpaid Grubbs last season... Center Think any questions over what kind of player Max Under is going to be for the Saints were answered for fans on the Cooks Screen Touchdown against the Ravens in PreSeason. Expect him to return to All-Pro form... Right Guart All-Pro Right Guard Jahri Evans has set a high bar for himself over the years, but for me, he's the biggest concern I've got going into the 2015 season. Age, Wear and The Big Mo look like they've got Jahri having one foot out the door; fingers crossed here... Right Tackle Zach Strief is the poster child for NFL overachievers; he's proof that hard work, character and leadership can forge a lasting NFL career; I cringe watching him maneuver in space despite his reliable effectiveness; while rookie Andrus Peat has gotten off to a slower start than expected in training camp, I still expect youth to be served by season's end... http://blackandgold.com/blogs/jeanpi...sive-line.html Good analysis fam.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL Bobby and Hokie made a great point last week on WWL (yea I know, I was shocked too) Discussing Evans and long term vets in general, they just don't have the same effort in camp that they do when the season starts. When the season starts they turn it up several notches. Almost all veterans do it.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL Originally Posted by Danno Bobby and Hokie made a great point last week on WWL (yea I know, I was shocked too) Originally Posted by Danno Discussing Evans and long term vets in general, they just don't have the same effort in camp that they do when the season starts. When the season starts they turn it up several notches. Almost all veterans do it. True. Good Point.

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