New Orleans Saints roster tracker: Live updates as the Saints reduce their roster to 53 players

jeanpierre · 09-06-2015, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

He started camp late due to his college... and he was mid first round...mot early. Early is like top 5 or 6

Deuce was pick 23 and he had less than 100 yards rushing his first season. I think that turned out fine.

Spike, what bothered me was Coach openly disclosed Peat was out-of-shape, and there's just no excuse in a first round investment being out-of-shape...

Robert Meachem, a former first round wide receiver, came in out-of-shape, so this is of concern, at the very least...

Deuce had limited yardage because we still had some kid named Rickey starting ahead of Deuce his rookie season...

spkb25 · 09-06-2015, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Deuce had limited yardage because we still had some kid named Rickey starting ahead of Deuce his rookie season...

This is my point. All the people running around complaining he isn't starting, but we have strief and armistead. That's what I have been pointing out from the get go. It's not like chuck brown is starting in front of him, there's two really good players in front of him.

The Dude · 09-06-2015, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

This is my point. All the people running around complaining he isn't starting, but we have strief and armistead. That's what I have been pointing out from the get go. It's not like chuck brown is starting in front of him, there's two really good players in front of him.

I don't buy the out of shape because he was in college excuse. You can study and still find time to train if you want it bad enough and I am sure the Saints gave him some sort of work out plan with target goals. The year I graduated I worked a full time job at around 14-16 hours a day at two jobs, one of which was not for pay. Got 3 or 4 hours of sleep at most and then went to school. I was a basket case that last semester but I still got my **** done because I was hungry for what I wanted to do. This guy knows his career is going to be in professional football and he needs to be hungry. That's why I kind of question his motor and work ethic.

Oh and from what I remember that is exactly what some of the draft experts said might hurt his draft potential

MarchingOn · 09-07-2015, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Any first rounder should be able to start or play very signicant playing time; am disappointed that Andrus Peat was out of shape coming into camp...

His size, mobility potential is there; but as an early, first round pick - you have to contribute immediately...

Front office panicked when NT Shelton was taken the pick before. Didn't have a backup plan even though Browns had said they wanted Shelton.

Should've taken the next best available instead...WR Devante Parker or traded down at any price just so they could regain their composure and plan.

Instead, thought they'd be "safe" and take the normally safe top OT on the board. Mediocre plan executed poorly.

Danno · 09-07-2015, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by MarchingOn

Front office panicked when NT Shelton was taken the pick before. Didn't have a backup plan even though Browns had said they wanted Shelton.

Should've taken the next best available instead...WR Devante Parker or traded down at any price just so they could regain their composure and plan.

Instead, thought they'd be "safe" and take the normally safe top OT on the board. Mediocre plan executed poorly.

Really? Were you there in the war room and are certain they didn't have a plan after Shelton was picked? Really?
I can assure you that we didn't panic. To imply they didn't have a backup plan due to one player being picked ahead of us to a team that was obviously in need of a player like Shelton is ridiculous.

Andrus Peat was the next best player on their board so they stuck with their plan.

spkb25 · 09-07-2015, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Really? Were you there in the war room and are certain they didn't have a plan after Shelton was picked? Really?
I can assure you that we didn't panic. To imply they didn't have a backup plan due to one player being picked ahead of us to a team that was obviously in need of a player like Shelton is ridiculous.

Andrus Peat was the next best player on their board so they stuck with their plan.

lmmfao- I love the cockamamie ideas people put forth as absolute fact.

As if every possible scenario had not been thought of and everyone knew shelton was likely to land there

hagan714 · 09-06-2015, 07:28 AM

nope never bought into Peat being ready on day one.

maybe by mid season he can handle the back up job at RT

If the gods are on our side he will be ready to back up at LT by season end.

If we are so lucky and pray a lot he might push to be a starter in 2016.

The kid needs work that is all. probably could have traded down and still got him. Last years crop of true OT were not polished at all for round one.

Ereck Flowers who was pick ahead of him needs work also. his pass blocking is not that great either

The highest pick in the draft of the OL that seems to be making a push is Mitch Morse, Round 2 Pick 17 (49) by the Chiefs. All the others are having issues. Pat do love Cameron Erving so far

give him some time. I am not throwing Peat out on heap just yet.

Evan Boehm, C/LOG, is the next Missouri tiger i will be watching for 2016.

Cruize · 09-06-2015, 08:27 AM

-Warren seemed to be the best safety in preseason. Made plays and was always around the ball.
-SJB by ALL accounts was having a great camp and preseason. Has one bad game and pissed Payton off and he's gone.
-Every one else I understand.
-Dixon and Wilson have never looked good. If they're counting on them, it's going to be another bad year on D.

Danno · 09-06-2015, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

-Warren seemed to be the best safety in preseason. Made plays and was always around the ball.
-SJB by ALL accounts was having a great camp and preseason. Has one bad game and pissed Payton off and he's gone.
-Every one else I understand.
-Dixon and Wilson have never looked good. If they're counting on them, it's going to be another bad year on D.

The Warren cut is a head scratcher, but SJB had more than one bad game. He graded out our 2nd worst defender in the Pats game as well.

He had a few good practices but that was it.

Wilson was better than SJB, and Dixon players special teams which SJB did not.

SJB may be back on our practice squad, but I'm getting the feeling we have our eyes set on several other CBs that may be more promising.

spkb25 · 09-06-2015, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

The Warren cut is a head scratcher, but SJB had more than one bad game. He graded out our 2nd worst defender in the Pats game as well.

He had a few good practices but that was it.

Wilson was better than SJB, and Dixon players special teams which SJB did not.

SJB may be back on our practice squad, but I'm getting the feeling we have our eyes set on several other CBs that may be more promising.

I think SJB goes practice too, if soemone doesn't grab him

09-06-2015, 07:23 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints roster tracker: Live updates as the Saints reduce their roster to 53 players Originally Posted by spkb25 He started camp late due to his college... and he was mid first round...mot early. Early is like top 5 or 6 Deuce was pick 23 and he had less than 100 yards rushing his first season. I think that turned out fine. Spike, what bothered me was Coach openly disclosed Peat was out-of-shape, and there's just no excuse in a first round investment being out-of-shape... Robert Meachem, a former first round wide receiver, came in out-of-shape, so this is of concern, at the very least... Deuce had limited yardage because we still had some kid named Rickey starting ahead of Deuce his rookie season...

09-06-2015, 07:28 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: New Orleans Saints roster tracker: Live updates as the Saints reduce their roster to 53 players Originally Posted by jeanpierre Deuce had limited yardage because we still had some kid named Rickey starting ahead of Deuce his rookie season... This is my point. All the people running around complaining he isn't starting, but we have strief and armistead. That's what I have been pointing out from the get go. It's not like chuck brown is starting in front of him, there's two really good players in front of him.

09-06-2015, 08:46 PM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: New Orleans Saints roster tracker: Live updates as the Saints reduce their roster to 53 players Originally Posted by spkb25 This is my point. All the people running around complaining he isn't starting, but we have strief and armistead. That's what I have been pointing out from the get go. It's not like chuck brown is starting in front of him, there's two really good players in front of him. I don't buy the out of shape because he was in college excuse. You can study and still find time to train if you want it bad enough and I am sure the Saints gave him some sort of work out plan with target goals. The year I graduated I worked a full time job at around 14-16 hours a day at two jobs, one of which was not for pay. Got 3 or 4 hours of sleep at most and then went to school. I was a basket case that last semester but I still got my **** done because I was hungry for what I wanted to do. This guy knows his career is going to be in professional football and he needs to be hungry. That's why I kind of question his motor and work ethic. Oh and from what I remember that is exactly what some of the draft experts said might hurt his draft potential
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09-07-2015, 12:24 AM	#4
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints roster tracker: Live updates as the Saints reduce their roster to 53 players Originally Posted by jeanpierre Any first rounder should be able to start or play very signicant playing time; am disappointed that Andrus Peat was out of shape coming into camp... His size, mobility potential is there; but as an early, first round pick - you have to contribute immediately... Front office panicked when NT Shelton was taken the pick before. Didn't have a backup plan even though Browns had said they wanted Shelton. Should've taken the next best available instead...WR Devante Parker or traded down at any price just so they could regain their composure and plan. Instead, thought they'd be "safe" and take the normally safe top OT on the board. Mediocre plan executed poorly. dizzle88 likes this.

09-07-2015, 02:18 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: New Orleans Saints roster tracker: Live updates as the Saints reduce their roster to 53 players Originally Posted by MarchingOn Front office panicked when NT Shelton was taken the pick before. Didn't have a backup plan even though Browns had said they wanted Shelton. Should've taken the next best available instead...WR Devante Parker or traded down at any price just so they could regain their composure and plan. Instead, thought they'd be "safe" and take the normally safe top OT on the board. Mediocre plan executed poorly. Really? Were you there in the war room and are certain they didn't have a plan after Shelton was picked? Really? I can assure you that we didn't panic. To imply they didn't have a backup plan due to one player being picked ahead of us to a team that was obviously in need of a player like Shelton is ridiculous. Andrus Peat was the next best player on their board so they stuck with their plan. spkb25 and CharityMike like this.

09-07-2015, 02:26 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: New Orleans Saints roster tracker: Live updates as the Saints reduce their roster to 53 players Originally Posted by Danno Really? Were you there in the war room and are certain they didn't have a plan after Shelton was picked? Really? I can assure you that we didn't panic. To imply they didn't have a backup plan due to one player being picked ahead of us to a team that was obviously in need of a player like Shelton is ridiculous. Andrus Peat was the next best player on their board so they stuck with their plan. lmmfao- I love the cockamamie ideas people put forth as absolute fact. As if every possible scenario had not been thought of and everyone knew shelton was likely to land there CharityMike likes this.

09-06-2015, 07:28 AM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints roster tracker: Live updates as the Saints reduce their roster to 53 players nope never bought into Peat being ready on day one. maybe by mid season he can handle the back up job at RT If the gods are on our side he will be ready to back up at LT by season end. If we are so lucky and pray a lot he might push to be a starter in 2016. The kid needs work that is all. probably could have traded down and still got him. Last years crop of true OT were not polished at all for round one. Ereck Flowers who was pick ahead of him needs work also. his pass blocking is not that great either The highest pick in the draft of the OL that seems to be making a push is Mitch Morse, Round 2 Pick 17 (49) by the Chiefs. All the others are having issues. Pat do love Cameron Erving so far give him some time. I am not throwing Peat out on heap just yet. Evan Boehm, C/LOG, is the next Missouri tiger i will be watching for 2016.
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09-06-2015, 08:27 AM	#8
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: New Orleans Saints roster tracker: Live updates as the Saints reduce their roster to 53 players -Warren seemed to be the best safety in preseason. Made plays and was always around the ball. -SJB by ALL accounts was having a great camp and preseason. Has one bad game and pissed Payton off and he's gone. -Every one else I understand. -Dixon and Wilson have never looked good. If they're counting on them, it's going to be another bad year on D. Rell&Gold likes this.
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09-06-2015, 08:44 AM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: New Orleans Saints roster tracker: Live updates as the Saints reduce their roster to 53 players Originally Posted by Cruize -Warren seemed to be the best safety in preseason. Made plays and was always around the ball. -SJB by ALL accounts was having a great camp and preseason. Has one bad game and pissed Payton off and he's gone. -Every one else I understand. -Dixon and Wilson have never looked good. If they're counting on them, it's going to be another bad year on D. The Warren cut is a head scratcher, but SJB had more than one bad game. He graded out our 2nd worst defender in the Pats game as well. He had a few good practices but that was it. Wilson was better than SJB, and Dixon players special teams which SJB did not. SJB may be back on our practice squad, but I'm getting the feeling we have our eyes set on several other CBs that may be more promising. MarchingOn likes this.

09-06-2015, 09:09 AM	#10
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: New Orleans Saints roster tracker: Live updates as the Saints reduce their roster to 53 players Originally Posted by Danno The Warren cut is a head scratcher, but SJB had more than one bad game. He graded out our 2nd worst defender in the Pats game as well. He had a few good practices but that was it. Wilson was better than SJB, and Dixon players special teams which SJB did not. SJB may be back on our practice squad, but I'm getting the feeling we have our eyes set on several other CBs that may be more promising. I think SJB goes practice too, if soemone doesn't grab him

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