Lot's of people could see the potential for this team to go either way. But your question in this thread was how hot is Payton's seat. I know I said somewhere in here that it SHOULD be hot if this season goes awry, but history has told us that Payton is pretty much invincible under Benson.

I would imagine there is a limit, somewhere in Benson's mind, but I'm not sure what it would take. More than likely, Payton will only leave on his own terms. Watching this team right now, my mood is moving from critical the past couple seasons to being pretty sick of this crap Payton/Loomis.

I got in some pretty intense arguments about this since last year with some people, when it shouldn't have been an issue. But some people just wanted to live on the SB win forever, and couldn't listen to any dissenting opinion. Those people know who they are.

It's not fun to talk about this stuff, but it is what it is and you can either accept it or lie to yourself. What I hate is people saying we're not real fans when we speak critically. If being a "real" fan means being a fake person, then people can have their superfan awards. I don't need any of that crap.