Brooks for Brees?

GumboBC · 02-09-2005, 03:00 PM

LKelley67

It\'s all good. But, I only used stats as part of my evaluation for Brees.

I also pointed out why I felt Brees had his ONLY productive year:

1. San Diego had the 3rd ranked rush defense. What\'s ours?
2. Most of the production in San Diego\'s passing game came from the TE (Antonio Gates) position. Not the wide receivers. Antonio Gates accounted for 934 yds and and almost half (13TDs) of Brees\' 27TDs. Think Boo Williams is capable of that?
3. LaDainian Tomlinson rushed for 1335 yards and a WHOPPING 17 TDs. And Tomlinson caught 53 passes for 441 yards and 1 TD.
4. The Chargers offensive line was very good.

You put Brees behind our offensive line. Give him Boo Williams instead of Antonio Gates and take away all those TDs that Tomlinson made. And give Brees our defense ... and how many more wins to we get with Brees? Hmmmmm.... Tell me guys?

The main thing I wanted to point out is how vastly differnt the Saints and Chargers offense is.

In San Diego, the passing comes from the TE and running back primarily.

The Saints offenses stretches the field with their speedy WRs. Can Brees adapt to that? Maybe. Maybe not. He hasn\'t proven he can.

[Edited on 9/2/2005 by GumboBC]

baronm · 02-09-2005, 03:34 PM

you know-i\'m not one to go with trends..but I like the use of the TE in alot of offenses. I think that is a valuable weapon.

BlackandBlue · 02-09-2005, 03:46 PM

You two need seperate and go to opposite corners. I can hear the blood boiling from where I am sitting.
If I catch either one of you taunting each other, via post, I\'ll wipe the boards wit yah, capeesh?

TheJudge · 02-09-2005, 07:53 PM

and how many more wins to we get with Brees? Hmmmmm.... Tell me guys?

at least one more that we needed to get into the playoffs with...

Brees\' Heart > Brooks\' heart that is the only stat i care about...

turbo_dog · 02-09-2005, 09:26 PM

Gumbo,

I think in college Brees was in a system which utilized wide receivers more. In his college career he had 88 tds to 42 ints. That\'s a pretty good number.

And I don\'t think he\'s had much of a choice to use the TE, as the WR position hasn\'t exactly been filled with stars in San Diego.

Keep in mind that I\'m not for or against Brees coming here, just wanted to say that if he did he might be able to have some success.

LongTimeFan · 02-09-2005, 09:42 PM

S.D has confirmed that they will keep both Rivers and Brees and have no plans to trade them....

LongTimeFan · 02-09-2005, 09:53 PM

Hell I don\'t agree with Gumbo all the time and I know he doesn\'t agree with me all the time, that\'s interesting to me, if we all agreed on everything here I wouldn\'t come because it would be boring to me.
If I don\'t agree with someone I comment on no matter how bad I disagree with that person to try and make a point with that person and we\'ll go back and forth until one of us get tired with it....
Cool site here, no matter how much we agree we\'re all fellow Saint fans...(tissue please)
Gumbo..I don\'t agree with the user name you chose, don\'t you think that you would be better off with another name?

GumboBC · 02-09-2005, 10:03 PM

Gumbo..I don\'t agree with the user name you chose, don\'t you think that you would be better off with another name?

I could have come up with another one...

In fact, I have had other names... but that a long story..

Saint_LB · 02-09-2005, 11:57 PM

Anyone? San D. can not wanna pay all that money to Brees and Rivers, and Rivers has sat a year so he knows the system. If it is about having two starting NFL QBs, then Brooks can fill that role for them and we could get a younger, better Brees. He could be a long term answer and would show a definite commitment by the team to improve. If we have to add Pathon or someone, so be it. Or maybe Brooks and Howard for Brees and their second number one. Not that would be phenomenal. What thinks yous guys?

Me thinks this would be wonderful, although I don\'t see it happening...this would be an indication that winning is just as important as making money. It would also be admitting that someone made a mistake in judgement. There certainly isn\'t any harm in dreaming, though.

Halo · 02-10-2005, 02:13 AM

\"No one wants to read this. Check your personal messages.\"

This comment was not directed at Saint_LB. Rather there are some members who can make a good post into a personal conversation about themselves which is something that no one wants to read anymore. Those who have a PM know who you are, everyone else, esp. Saint_LB, our sincerest apologies.

[Edited on 2/10/2005 by Halo]

02-09-2005, 03:00 PM	#21
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Brooks for Brees? LKelley67 It\'s all good. But, I only used stats as part of my evaluation for Brees. I also pointed out why I felt Brees had his ONLY productive year: 1. San Diego had the 3rd ranked rush defense. What\'s ours? 2. Most of the production in San Diego\'s passing game came from the TE (Antonio Gates) position. Not the wide receivers. Antonio Gates accounted for 934 yds and and almost half (13TDs) of Brees\' 27TDs. Think Boo Williams is capable of that? 3. LaDainian Tomlinson rushed for 1335 yards and a WHOPPING 17 TDs. And Tomlinson caught 53 passes for 441 yards and 1 TD. 4. The Chargers offensive line was very good. You put Brees behind our offensive line. Give him Boo Williams instead of Antonio Gates and take away all those TDs that Tomlinson made. And give Brees our defense ... and how many more wins to we get with Brees? Hmmmmm.... Tell me guys? The main thing I wanted to point out is how vastly differnt the Saints and Chargers offense is. In San Diego, the passing comes from the TE and running back primarily. The Saints offenses stretches the field with their speedy WRs. Can Brees adapt to that? Maybe. Maybe not. He hasn\'t proven he can. [Edited on 9/2/2005 by GumboBC]
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02-09-2005, 03:34 PM	#22
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	Brooks for Brees? you know-i\'m not one to go with trends..but I like the use of the TE in alot of offenses. I think that is a valuable weapon.
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TheJudge 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 100	Brooks for Brees? and how many more wins to we get with Brees? Hmmmmm.... Tell me guys? at least one more that we needed to get into the playoffs with... Brees\' Heart > Brooks\' heart that is the only stat i care about...
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turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Brooks for Brees? Gumbo, I think in college Brees was in a system which utilized wide receivers more. In his college career he had 88 tds to 42 ints. That\'s a pretty good number. And I don\'t think he\'s had much of a choice to use the TE, as the WR position hasn\'t exactly been filled with stars in San Diego. Keep in mind that I\'m not for or against Brees coming here, just wanted to say that if he did he might be able to have some success.

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02-09-2005, 10:03 PM	#28
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Brooks for Brees? Gumbo..I don\'t agree with the user name you chose, don\'t you think that you would be better off with another name? I could have come up with another one... In fact, I have had other names... but that a long story..
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02-09-2005, 11:57 PM	#29
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Brooks for Brees? Anyone? San D. can not wanna pay all that money to Brees and Rivers, and Rivers has sat a year so he knows the system. If it is about having two starting NFL QBs, then Brooks can fill that role for them and we could get a younger, better Brees. He could be a long term answer and would show a definite commitment by the team to improve. If we have to add Pathon or someone, so be it. Or maybe Brooks and Howard for Brees and their second number one. Not that would be phenomenal. What thinks yous guys? Me thinks this would be wonderful, although I don\'t see it happening...this would be an indication that winning is just as important as making money. It would also be admitting that someone made a mistake in judgement. There certainly isn\'t any harm in dreaming, though.
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894

02-10-2005, 02:13 AM	#30
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,744 Blog Entries: 45	Brooks for Brees? \"No one wants to read this. Check your personal messages.\" This comment was not directed at Saint_LB. Rather there are some members who can make a good post into a personal conversation about themselves which is something that no one wants to read anymore. Those who have a PM know who you are, everyone else, esp. Saint_LB, our sincerest apologies. [Edited on 2/10/2005 by Halo]