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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; That's funny Guido after all these years i still have to look up the spelling of Payton always want to spell it with an "e". Just can't get it through my brain for some reason....

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Old 09-13-2015, 07:51 PM   #1
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Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips

That's funny Guido after all these years i still have to look up the spelling of Payton always want to spell it with an "e". Just can't get it through my brain for some reason.
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Old 09-13-2015, 08:56 PM   #2
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Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips

The case is growing against Payton. I think he has run his course with this team. I love everything Payton has done for us. It's just time to be realistic.
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Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips

That is a little excessive. Maybe some of yall are too young to remember every coach we had prior to Payton.
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Payton at his worst is still better than most of our coaches of the past at their best. He just needs to start wanting a Lombardy again, because Im not seeing it.
This was a piss poor coached game. Wasted plays running and screening when he should have went to the pass 1st to open the run. Punt was bad, and red zone plays were auwful.
I also think he cost us 7pts by calling a time out when the Cards were weak on the right side, and I think Brees saw that.
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Old 09-13-2015, 10:19 PM   #5
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Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips

When Payton decided to put the ball he was saying that he had very little faith in the offense to pick up a 1st down.
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Old 09-14-2015, 09:35 AM   #6
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Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips

The team played hard yesterday. Arizona is a better team. They were at home. The Saints were in the game until the end. The Saints have always had a hard time against physical teams under Payton. Payton was out-coached yesterday.

The real measuring stick on this team comes this week against the Bucs. They showed up against Arizona. Will they show up against a clearly lesser team? Or, will they half-ass it and squeak by with a win or worse?
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Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips

Bum Phillips? Maybe more like Dick Nolan!

Look, we just recently had a lil' incident where according to the police report, they had as many as 10 Saints players ballin' it up in the club, at 4 AM. That's one fifth of the roster! And I know some people here brushed it off, acted like it was no big deal, oh this happens all the time.... Well I am old enough to remember the George Rogers/Chuck Muncie cocaine era of the Saints, and I personally know a guy who once saw Kenny Stabler out at a bar at 4 AM, blotto out of his mind on a Saturday night, before a noon kickoff in the Dome....and let me tell you, folks, the players may have had their fun, but those seasons weren't very pretty for the Saints... or their fans.

Right now we have a bunch of club rats and party animals on defense, and a bunch of gator-wrestling, intern-punching, butt-slapping, immature, disorganized DISTRACTIONS filling our roster, on BOTH sides of the ball. Not to even mention a Big Lebowski style defensive coordinator who is seen double fisting it at Miss Mae's on a regular basis.

And yesterday, the team looked like it! Arizona had already scored 14 points before the Saints even woke up and realized it was Sunday morning, and figured out they weren't in Lucy's or @ Republic anymore, or that they weren't living inside an episode of "HBO Ballers"...if this keeps up this way, it's gonna be a LONG year, folks. They can still turn it around, of course....they can crack down and turn it around. But historically, based on facts, the bottom line is that NFL teams that party too much, or have too much OFF THE FIELD DISTRACTION, they rarely ever amount to anything.
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Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips

We lost! Now let's look at why.

25 new faces on the team implementing a new scheme

Defense:
2 rookies starting at LB'er
We lost a starting safety(Bush) to a rib injury
Lewis and Byrd out
UDFA's played significant snaps
First year player Breaux was attacked early and often. He is still learning
Assignment errors gave up critically long plays
Penalties sustained scoring drives
Very little pressure from the front four

Offense:
Too many runs went for no gain
Drew has too put the ball in very tight coverage because our WR's don't get much separation.
Too many dropped passes
Colston needs an eye exam now
Coleman needs to challenge for the ball at the point of contact
Cooks had minimal production because of spectacular coverage
Our TE's don't stretch the field
We don't have a legitimate red zone threat
Way too much pressure in Drew's face
Less than stellar clock management and play calling(predictability)

Reasons for Optimism:

Drew looked good
Ingram and Robinson can both run between the tackles
Ingram and Robinson both look good receiving out of the back field
Ingram and Robinson both run the screen plays well
Our O-line gets to the second level quickly and block aggressively
Max Unger
Snead looks like the real thing
Coleman finally showing why coaches like him
Payton has film and a better feel for the team and how best to use them
We play at Dome Sweet Dome

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Hocker
Murphy
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Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips

Cards defense is very good. No need to panic.

Decision at end of game was a no win situation. Both choices were long shots subject to second guesses.

Our special teams stack up against anybody's.

Play calling was overly conservative. And I still say Sean looks fat, which leads me to wonder where his head is. But this is a young team that will make the playoffs and with some luck and good health could be a contender next year.
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Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips

The passes out of the backfield were abused. Refs were calling PI, why not take some shots, bound to connect or get a call at some point. Sick of this conservative play calling and short passing game. Peterson is good but no Deon. Hoping to see this develop next week because the offensive game plan was way too conservative.
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