Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips

voodooido · 09-13-2015, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

The punt at the end was just throwing in the towel.
What are you hoping to accomplish by giving away the ball,
needing 6, with only 2 minutes left on the clock.
It was just sad. I wish I could have jumped through the TV.

Yeah that was stupid. What the heck did he see in our defense that made him to believe they could stop the cards? You have a top 4 QB so you take the ball out of his hands and put it in a defense which has 4-5 rookies starting.

burningmetal · 09-13-2015, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

The punt at the end was just throwing in the towel.
What are you hoping to accomplish by giving away the ball,
needing 6, with only 2 minutes left on the clock.
It was just sad. I wish I could have jumped through the TV.

Oh lord, after all the things I've been going on about in these threads I forgot to mention that Punt.... That was the freaking most bone-headed decision I can remember from Payton.

PUNT with the best case scenario (barring a lucky turnover) of getting the ball back at your own twenty, if the punter really screws up, with just under a minute left and no timeouts while needing a touchdown? Really? Is it that important that we stick to the old "don't go for it from that deep in your own territory" school of thought, that we won't go for it even with the game on the line? Just because, mathematically speaking, we could get it back? What's wrong with you Sean?!

spkb25 · 09-13-2015, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

What does the Bronco's QB have to do with the Saints?

LMMFAO BAHAHAHAHAHA

spkb25 · 09-13-2015, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Like you are still an idiot. Why?

LMMFAO

NOLA54 · 09-13-2015, 08:56 PM

The case is growing against Payton. I think he has run his course with this team. I love everything Payton has done for us. It's just time to be realistic.

clintonrebel · 09-13-2015, 09:15 PM

That is a little excessive. Maybe some of yall are too young to remember every coach we had prior to Payton.

pherein · 09-13-2015, 10:03 PM

Payton at his worst is still better than most of our coaches of the past at their best. He just needs to start wanting a Lombardy again, because Im not seeing it.
This was a piss poor coached game. Wasted plays running and screening when he should have went to the pass 1st to open the run. Punt was bad, and red zone plays were auwful.
I also think he cost us 7pts by calling a time out when the Cards were weak on the right side, and I think Brees saw that.

neugey · 09-13-2015, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

The punt at the end was just throwing in the towel.
What are you hoping to accomplish by giving away the ball,
needing 6, with only 2 minutes left on the clock.
It was just sad. I wish I could have jumped through the TV.

It was bad math. Let's say we punt it to the Cardinals and they do 3 QB kneels and punt the ball back to us. We use both timeouts, Cards run as much clock as possible. Sure, we'd get the ball back at around our 20 yard-line, but with only 30 seconds, 0 timeouts and needing a TD. No chance in accomplishing that against the Cardinals defense.

I cut Payton a little slack because other NFL coaches seem to over-punt too. But then again I cut him less slack because they had a whole two-minute warning break to make a good decision and yet failed to do so.

Rsanders24 · 09-13-2015, 10:19 PM

When Payton decided to put the ball he was saying that he had very little faith in the offense to pick up a 1st down.

jeanpierre · 09-13-2015, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Like you are still an idiot. Why?

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09-13-2015, 07:55 PM	#11
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,843	Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips Originally Posted by darstep The punt at the end was just throwing in the towel. What are you hoping to accomplish by giving away the ball, needing 6, with only 2 minutes left on the clock. It was just sad. I wish I could have jumped through the TV. Yeah that was stupid. What the heck did he see in our defense that made him to believe they could stop the cards? You have a top 4 QB so you take the ball out of his hands and put it in a defense which has 4-5 rookies starting.
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09-13-2015, 08:08 PM	#12
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips Originally Posted by darstep The punt at the end was just throwing in the towel. What are you hoping to accomplish by giving away the ball, needing 6, with only 2 minutes left on the clock. It was just sad. I wish I could have jumped through the TV. Oh lord, after all the things I've been going on about in these threads I forgot to mention that Punt.... That was the freaking most bone-headed decision I can remember from Payton. PUNT with the best case scenario (barring a lucky turnover) of getting the ball back at your own twenty, if the punter really screws up, with just under a minute left and no timeouts while needing a touchdown? Really? Is it that important that we stick to the old "don't go for it from that deep in your own territory" school of thought, that we won't go for it even with the game on the line? Just because, mathematically speaking, we could get it back? What's wrong with you Sean?!
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

09-13-2015, 08:32 PM	#13
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips Originally Posted by AsylumGuido What does the Bronco's QB have to do with the Saints? LMMFAO BAHAHAHAHAHA

09-13-2015, 08:33 PM	#14
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Like you are still an idiot. Why? LMMFAO

09-13-2015, 08:56 PM	#15
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips The case is growing against Payton. I think he has run his course with this team. I love everything Payton has done for us. It's just time to be realistic.

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09-13-2015, 09:15 PM	#16
clintonrebel Rookie Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 26	Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips That is a little excessive. Maybe some of yall are too young to remember every coach we had prior to Payton. lumm0x, Rugby Saint II and pherein like this.
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pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips Payton at his worst is still better than most of our coaches of the past at their best. He just needs to start wanting a Lombardy again, because Im not seeing it. This was a piss poor coached game. Wasted plays running and screening when he should have went to the pass 1st to open the run. Punt was bad, and red zone plays were auwful. I also think he cost us 7pts by calling a time out when the Cards were weak on the right side, and I think Brees saw that. MarchingOn likes this.
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09-13-2015, 10:03 PM	#18
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,877 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips Originally Posted by darstep The punt at the end was just throwing in the towel. What are you hoping to accomplish by giving away the ball, needing 6, with only 2 minutes left on the clock. It was just sad. I wish I could have jumped through the TV. It was bad math. Let's say we punt it to the Cardinals and they do 3 QB kneels and punt the ball back to us. We use both timeouts, Cards run as much clock as possible. Sure, we'd get the ball back at around our 20 yard-line, but with only 30 seconds, 0 timeouts and needing a TD. No chance in accomplishing that against the Cardinals defense. I cut Payton a little slack because other NFL coaches seem to over-punt too. But then again I cut him less slack because they had a whole two-minute warning break to make a good decision and yet failed to do so.

09-13-2015, 10:19 PM	#19
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,493	Re: Least Creative Saints plan since Bum Phillips When Payton decided to put the ball he was saying that he had very little faith in the offense to pick up a 1st down.

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