eyes open

Supertek · 09-16-2015, 02:46 PM

People on this forum have to face reality. Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis have devastated our roster. They have let a ton of good players go and let us all down as fans. You name it letting Stills, Graham, Jenkins, Moore, Thomas, and many others. What do we have now a group of receivers that can't get open and a fumble fingered first receiver that quite frankly has seen his best days come and go. We let what good defensive linemen that we did have go right after winning the super bowl and never brought in one player that has been an impact player since. I hope our defense can come along but for now I will have to see it to believe it. Our offense now is by far the worst we have had and we will see Payton's play with what you got attitude till we see him replaced.

CharityMike · 09-16-2015, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Supertek

People on this forum have to face reality. Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis have devastated our roster. They have let a ton of good players go and let us all down as fans. You name it letting Stills, Graham, Jenkins, Moore, Thomas, and many others. What do we have now a group of receivers that can't get open and a fumble fingered first receiver that quite frankly has seen his best days come and go. We let what good defensive linemen that we did have go right after winning the super bowl and never brought in one player that has been an impact player since. I hope our defense can come along but for now I will have to see it to believe it. Our offense now is by far the worst we have had and we will see Payton's play with what you got attitude till we see him replaced.

There is so much wrong with this post. we haven't let anyone go that's been lighting it up elsewhere. Pierre don't even have a job, stills is the 4th receiver and to say that this is by far the worst offense we have seen just shows your age. The biggest debatable move has been Graham and that was a good football move. Yes we are paying the price by not having that big weapon for the red zone but sometimes you have to bite the bullet to make the team better.

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RaginCajun83 · 09-16-2015, 03:48 PM

Since 2006, only Stallworth did anything with their new team after leaving the Saints and that was only one season. WR has been a revolving door and will continue to be with SP/DB here

dizzle88 · 09-16-2015, 03:55 PM

We let two of our successful positional coaches leave previously and thought we could replace them easily

Curtis Johnson - even our franchise reception leader (Colston) has forgotten how to catch

Dennis Allen - granted he's back, but our DB's in 2009 had such good hands

CharityMike · 09-16-2015, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We let two of our successful positional coaches leave previously and thought we could replace them easily

Curtis Johnson - even our franchise reception leader (Colston) has forgotten how to catch

Dennis Allen - granted he's back, but our DB's in 2009 had such good hands

This!!! This hurt more than any player we let walk.

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nola_swammi · 09-17-2015, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We let two of our successful positional coaches leave previously and thought we could replace them easily

Curtis Johnson - even our franchise reception leader (Colston) has forgotten how to catch

Dennis Allen - granted he's back, but our DB's in 2009 had such good hands

Aaron Kromer I know he been in some trouble (attacking a kid) but the OL been declining since his departure. Under his tenure as OL coach, the Saints sent five players to a combined nine Pro Bowls

Halo · 09-17-2015, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Aaron Kromer I know he been in some trouble (attacking a kid) but the OL been declining since his departure. Under his tenure as OL coach, the Saints sent five players to a combined nine Pro Bowls

I think the o-line looked better last week then it did the entire season last year. We addressed in free agency and draft, brought in a stud at center, and it showed.

The playcall by SP and dropped balls by wide receivers.... that's anther story....

nola_swammi · 09-17-2015, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I think the o-line looked better last week then it did the entire season last year. We addressed in free agency and draft, brought in a stud at center, and it showed.

The playcall by SP and dropped balls by wide receivers.... that's anther story....

I agree they did great, still brees was sacked a couple of times which was very rare with Aaron Kromer coaching

SmashMouth · 09-17-2015, 02:22 PM

darstep · 09-19-2015, 07:09 AM

Every season the roster will change.
We hope every (most every) position sees an improvement,
But money just won't allow that reality.
Since 2009 every player felt they needed to be rewarded financially.
Some got paid, some got paid elsewhere, and some we just had to let go.
Some got paid better than others which only leaves so much cap space for upgrades.
We've been fishing for bargain talent and hoping to strike gold.
Drops, missed tackles, bad angles, no sacks, poor and blown coverages...
Just average all over the field.
Looks like we are getting what we are paying for.

09-16-2015, 02:46 PM	#1
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Re: eyes open People on this forum have to face reality. Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis have devastated our roster. They have let a ton of good players go and let us all down as fans. You name it letting Stills, Graham, Jenkins, Moore, Thomas, and many others. What do we have now a group of receivers that can't get open and a fumble fingered first receiver that quite frankly has seen his best days come and go. We let what good defensive linemen that we did have go right after winning the super bowl and never brought in one player that has been an impact player since. I hope our defense can come along but for now I will have to see it to believe it. Our offense now is by far the worst we have had and we will see Payton's play with what you got attitude till we see him replaced. NOLA54 likes this.

09-16-2015, 03:18 PM	#2
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: eyes open Originally Posted by Supertek People on this forum have to face reality. Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis have devastated our roster. They have let a ton of good players go and let us all down as fans. You name it letting Stills, Graham, Jenkins, Moore, Thomas, and many others. What do we have now a group of receivers that can't get open and a fumble fingered first receiver that quite frankly has seen his best days come and go. We let what good defensive linemen that we did have go right after winning the super bowl and never brought in one player that has been an impact player since. I hope our defense can come along but for now I will have to see it to believe it. Our offense now is by far the worst we have had and we will see Payton's play with what you got attitude till we see him replaced. There is so much wrong with this post. we haven't let anyone go that's been lighting it up elsewhere. Pierre don't even have a job, stills is the 4th receiver and to say that this is by far the worst offense we have seen just shows your age. The biggest debatable move has been Graham and that was a good football move. Yes we are paying the price by not having that big weapon for the red zone but sometimes you have to bite the bullet to make the team better. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

09-16-2015, 03:48 PM	#3
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: eyes open Since 2006, only Stallworth did anything with their new team after leaving the Saints and that was only one season. WR has been a revolving door and will continue to be with SP/DB here

09-16-2015, 03:55 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: eyes open We let two of our successful positional coaches leave previously and thought we could replace them easily Curtis Johnson - even our franchise reception leader (Colston) has forgotten how to catch Dennis Allen - granted he's back, but our DB's in 2009 had such good hands Halo, Danno, nola_swammi and 1 others like this.

09-16-2015, 03:58 PM	#5
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: eyes open Originally Posted by dizzle88 We let two of our successful positional coaches leave previously and thought we could replace them easily Curtis Johnson - even our franchise reception leader (Colston) has forgotten how to catch Dennis Allen - granted he's back, but our DB's in 2009 had such good hands This!!! This hurt more than any player we let walk. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Halo likes this.

09-17-2015, 12:42 AM	#6
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: eyes open Originally Posted by dizzle88 We let two of our successful positional coaches leave previously and thought we could replace them easily Curtis Johnson - even our franchise reception leader (Colston) has forgotten how to catch Dennis Allen - granted he's back, but our DB's in 2009 had such good hands Aaron Kromer I know he been in some trouble (attacking a kid) but the OL been declining since his departure. Under his tenure as OL coach, the Saints sent five players to a combined nine Pro Bowls dizzle88 likes this.

09-17-2015, 02:31 PM	#7
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,894 Blog Entries: 45	Re: eyes open Originally Posted by nola_swammi Aaron Kromer I know he been in some trouble (attacking a kid) but the OL been declining since his departure. Under his tenure as OL coach, the Saints sent five players to a combined nine Pro Bowls I think the o-line looked better last week then it did the entire season last year. We addressed in free agency and draft, brought in a stud at center, and it showed. The playcall by SP and dropped balls by wide receivers.... that's anther story....

09-17-2015, 08:17 PM	#8
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: eyes open Originally Posted by Halo I think the o-line looked better last week then it did the entire season last year. We addressed in free agency and draft, brought in a stud at center, and it showed. The playcall by SP and dropped balls by wide receivers.... that's anther story.... I agree they did great, still brees was sacked a couple of times which was very rare with Aaron Kromer coaching

09-17-2015, 02:22 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,792 Blog Entries: 29	Re: eyes open Halo likes this.

09-19-2015, 07:09 AM	#10
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: eyes open Every season the roster will change. We hope every (most every) position sees an improvement, But money just won't allow that reality. Since 2009 every player felt they needed to be rewarded financially. Some got paid, some got paid elsewhere, and some we just had to let go. Some got paid better than others which only leaves so much cap space for upgrades. We've been fishing for bargain talent and hoping to strike gold. Drops, missed tackles, bad angles, no sacks, poor and blown coverages... Just average all over the field. Looks like we are getting what we are paying for.
	SaintSince67

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