CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss

blackangold · 09-14-2015, 07:39 PM

I actually agree with every one of them.

1) Something is Wrong with Sean Payton
2) Brandin Cooks is Not Ready to be a Number One Receiver
3) The Saints' Defense is Going to Get Better
4) Running Backs Will Have An Outstanding Season Catching the Ball
5) This Might be it for Marques

Saints-Cardinals: Five Big Things from the Game - Canal Street Chronicles

POLL
What was the main cause of the Saints' loss at Arizona?

10% Payton's punt on 4th and 6 in the fourth quarter
(171 votes)
60% Brees and the offense's inability to score TDs
(1011 votes)
14% Defense was softer than hot butter early and late
(239 votes)
12% This team is simply still too young
(204 votes)
3% At least we didn't give up a 40 burger
(55 votes)

Danno · 09-14-2015, 07:44 PM

1st 2 are BS, but 3,4 and 5 are on spot.

blackangold · 09-14-2015, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

1st 2 are BS, but 3,4 and 5 are on spot.

#1 I think you'd have a tough time arguing against. Payton is definitely not the same play caller he used to be. Personally I think it's very bland and predictable over the last 2 years. The best our offense has been was in 2011 and he wasn't the one calling the plays.

#2 Is hit or miss, but Peterson did shut Cooks down. We'll see how he rebounds against Tampa.

Danno · 09-14-2015, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

#1 I think you'd have a tough time arguing against. Payton is definitely not the same play caller he used to be. Personally I think it's very bland and predictable over the last 2 years. The best our offense has been was in 2011 and he wasn't the one calling the plays.

#2 Is hit or miss, but Peterson did shut Cooks down. We'll see how he rebounds against Tampa.

Payton has always been a questionable play caller. Parcells nailed it when he said he gets the fever (passing).

Its the same Payton we've seen since he became our coach. He just went against a good defense on the road, with a 50% roster turnover, and we still put up 408 yards.

saintsfan1976 · 09-15-2015, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Payton has always been a questionable play caller. Parcells nailed it when he said he gets the fever (passing).

Its the same Payton we've seen since he became our coach. He just went against a good defense on the road, with a 50% roster turnover, and we still put up 408 yards.

408 yards sure. I read this somewhere yesterday and thought it made the most sense when describing the offense on Sunday

152 of the Saints’ 408 total yards came on just three of their 70 plays. Almost forty percent of their yardage came on four percent of their snaps. They earned very little and sustained almost nothing

Truth

saintfan · 09-14-2015, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

1st 2 are BS, but 3,4 and 5 are on spot.

Agreed. Although I'm not sure Cooks is really "ready" to be #1, but we're throwing a lot of guys to the wolves this season, particularly on defense. I see no reason not to include Cooks in the deal. It's clear he has what it takes, so just give him the job and roll with it. We have the makings of a really good team, but it's going to take some time. Count me in (but I reserve the right to complain sometimes).

papz · 09-14-2015, 07:45 PM

My big take away is that while it was very discouraging, it was just one road game against a team we've struggled with in the past. I need to see more before passing judgement off of one game.

SmashMouth · 09-15-2015, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by papz

My big take away is that while it was very discouraging, it was just one road game against a team we've struggled with in the past. I need to see more before passing judgement off of one game.

You just hit it....

ChrisXVI · 09-14-2015, 07:46 PM

I can answer the first two...

1) Sean Payton is a complacent alcoholic

2) Brandin Cooks was covered by one of the best CB's in the league.

Marlboro Man · 09-16-2015, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I can answer the first two...

1) Sean Payton is a complacent alcoholic

2) Brandin Cooks was covered by one of the best CB's in the league.

If Brandon Cooks is gonna be great, he's got to beat the top CB's in the league.

Payton's been a stubborn coach from the beginning.

09-14-2015, 07:48 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by Danno 1st 2 are BS, but 3,4 and 5 are on spot. #1 I think you'd have a tough time arguing against. Payton is definitely not the same play caller he used to be. Personally I think it's very bland and predictable over the last 2 years. The best our offense has been was in 2011 and he wasn't the one calling the plays. #2 Is hit or miss, but Peterson did shut Cooks down. We'll see how he rebounds against Tampa.

09-14-2015, 07:53 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by blackangold #1 I think you'd have a tough time arguing against. Payton is definitely not the same play caller he used to be. Personally I think it's very bland and predictable over the last 2 years. The best our offense has been was in 2011 and he wasn't the one calling the plays. #2 Is hit or miss, but Peterson did shut Cooks down. We'll see how he rebounds against Tampa. Payton has always been a questionable play caller. Parcells nailed it when he said he gets the fever (passing). Its the same Payton we've seen since he became our coach. He just went against a good defense on the road, with a 50% roster turnover, and we still put up 408 yards. spkb25, Boutte, foreverfan and 1 others like this.

09-15-2015, 04:16 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,992 Blog Entries: 3	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by Danno Payton has always been a questionable play caller. Parcells nailed it when he said he gets the fever (passing). Its the same Payton we've seen since he became our coach. He just went against a good defense on the road, with a 50% roster turnover, and we still put up 408 yards. 408 yards sure. I read this somewhere yesterday and thought it made the most sense when describing the offense on Sunday 152 of the Saints’ 408 total yards came on just three of their 70 plays. Almost forty percent of their yardage came on four percent of their snaps. They earned very little and sustained almost nothing Truth Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-14-2015, 08:03 PM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by Danno 1st 2 are BS, but 3,4 and 5 are on spot. Agreed. Although I'm not sure Cooks is really "ready" to be #1, but we're throwing a lot of guys to the wolves this season, particularly on defense. I see no reason not to include Cooks in the deal. It's clear he has what it takes, so just give him the job and roll with it. We have the makings of a really good team, but it's going to take some time. Count me in (but I reserve the right to complain sometimes). Boutte and foreverfan like this.

09-14-2015, 07:45 PM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss My big take away is that while it was very discouraging, it was just one road game against a team we've struggled with in the past. I need to see more before passing judgement off of one game. spkb25, Boutte, hagan714 and 1 others like this.

09-14-2015, 07:39 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss I actually agree with every one of them. 1) Something is Wrong with Sean Payton 2) Brandin Cooks is Not Ready to be a Number One Receiver 3) The Saints' Defense is Going to Get Better 4) Running Backs Will Have An Outstanding Season Catching the Ball 5) This Might be it for Marques Saints-Cardinals: Five Big Things from the Game - Canal Street Chronicles POLL What was the main cause of the Saints' loss at Arizona? 10% Payton's punt on 4th and 6 in the fourth quarter (171 votes) 60% Brees and the offense's inability to score TDs (1011 votes) 14% Defense was softer than hot butter early and late (239 votes) 12% This team is simply still too young (204 votes) 3% At least we didn't give up a 40 burger (55 votes)

09-14-2015, 07:44 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss 1st 2 are BS, but 3,4 and 5 are on spot. jnormand, RaginCajun83 and Rell&Gold like this.

09-15-2015, 06:59 AM	#8
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,547 Blog Entries: 29	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by papz My big take away is that while it was very discouraging, it was just one road game against a team we've struggled with in the past. I need to see more before passing judgement off of one game. You just hit it.... K Major likes this.

09-14-2015, 07:46 PM	#9
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss I can answer the first two... 1) Sean Payton is a complacent alcoholic 2) Brandin Cooks was covered by one of the best CB's in the league.

09-16-2015, 01:28 AM	#10
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I can answer the first two... 1) Sean Payton is a complacent alcoholic 2) Brandin Cooks was covered by one of the best CB's in the league. If Brandon Cooks is gonna be great, he's got to beat the top CB's in the league. Payton's been a stubborn coach from the beginning.

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