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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I actually agree with every one of them. 1) Something is Wrong with Sean Payton 2) Brandin Cooks is Not Ready to be a Number One Receiver 3) The Saints' Defense is Going to Get Better 4) Running Backs Will ...

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Old 09-14-2015, 08:39 PM   #1
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CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss

I actually agree with every one of them.

1) Something is Wrong with Sean Payton
2) Brandin Cooks is Not Ready to be a Number One Receiver
3) The Saints' Defense is Going to Get Better
4) Running Backs Will Have An Outstanding Season Catching the Ball
5) This Might be it for Marques

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1st 2 are BS, but 3,4 and 5 are on spot.
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My big take away is that while it was very discouraging, it was just one road game against a team we've struggled with in the past. I need to see more before passing judgement off of one game.
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I can answer the first two...

1) Sean Payton is a complacent alcoholic

2) Brandin Cooks was covered by one of the best CB's in the league.
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1st 2 are BS, but 3,4 and 5 are on spot.
#1 I think you'd have a tough time arguing against. Payton is definitely not the same play caller he used to be. Personally I think it's very bland and predictable over the last 2 years. The best our offense has been was in 2011 and he wasn't the one calling the plays.

#2 Is hit or miss, but Peterson did shut Cooks down. We'll see how he rebounds against Tampa.
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#1 I think you'd have a tough time arguing against. Payton is definitely not the same play caller he used to be. Personally I think it's very bland and predictable over the last 2 years. The best our offense has been was in 2011 and he wasn't the one calling the plays.

#2 Is hit or miss, but Peterson did shut Cooks down. We'll see how he rebounds against Tampa.
Payton has always been a questionable play caller. Parcells nailed it when he said he gets the fever (passing).

Its the same Payton we've seen since he became our coach. He just went against a good defense on the road, with a 50% roster turnover, and we still put up 408 yards.
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Pete Carmichael was calling the plays in 2011... Just saying.
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1st 2 are BS, but 3,4 and 5 are on spot.
Agreed. Although I'm not sure Cooks is really "ready" to be #1, but we're throwing a lot of guys to the wolves this season, particularly on defense. I see no reason not to include Cooks in the deal. It's clear he has what it takes, so just give him the job and roll with it. We have the makings of a really good team, but it's going to take some time. Count me in (but I reserve the right to complain sometimes).

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#6. We went toe to toe on the road against a very good defensive ball club.
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Enough is enough... We all know Payton is an egomaniac who refuses to let Carmichael call the plays because when Carmichael did we surpassed the "Greatest Show on Turf." Now Payton will just continue to call one screen pass after another until we suck enough to where he can blame it on Rob Ryan's defense.
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