Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study

WhoDat!656 · 09-17-2015, 03:20 PM

The screens to the WRs didn't seem to work as well as the ones to the RBs, IIRC.

The right game plan was in place.

The New Orleans Saints came in fully prepared in how to counteract an aggressive Arizona Cardinals defense. I know many Saints fans screamed at the TV to stop throwing screen passes, but that's how Sean Payton, Drew Brees and Co. put the Saints in several positions to score touchdowns.

That whole getting the football into the end zone thing just wasn't working.

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BusDriver · 09-17-2015, 03:40 PM

If Coleman blocks/puts defender on his ass, Ingram would have scored on the long screen. I remember yelling it and saying if we end up not scoring that play will cost us. Still a good highlight of the day.

WhoDat!656 · 09-17-2015, 04:03 PM

Still a good sign that Ingram's pass catching has improved!

WillMacKenzie · 09-17-2015, 08:46 PM

I remember seeing, more than once, our running backs miss the gaping holes opened up for them. I think their vision could be better, and I think they need to be told to open it up and go for the TD.

Offensive linemen down the field are awesome to have blocking for you, which we have a lot of...but at some point, you've got to hit the gas and leave them all behind. Don't stand behind your blocks until you get caught from every other angle.

saintsfan1976 · 09-17-2015, 08:51 PM

First game with a depleted team, new faces, young players, on the road vs a tough opponent.

We played poorly. Racked up penalties. And still had a chance to win it.

pherein · 09-17-2015, 09:39 PM

you know every team has excuses for new players, injuries, new defense, new scheme, not buying it. losers make excuses. Good teams find a way to win.

saintsfan1976 · 09-18-2015, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by pherein

you know every team has excuses for new players, injuries, new defense, new scheme, not buying it. losers make excuses. Good teams find a way to win.

Nice speech.

However you know it's not that simple.

pherein · 09-18-2015, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Nice speech.

However you know it's not that simple.

It is that simple. Teams win Super Bowls. Not excuses or transition talk or not being able to work together on the field. Its a mind set. Rarely do you see the team with the best stats win a SB. I mean our D was #25 in 2009, but they were a team.
To get there is not so simple to create, thats coaching, but you shouldnt tolerate failure or excuses, that just makes you a loser, and complacent.
and I stole that line from Bill Belichick. Who won SB's with kickers,running, great QB, and the last one was all defence. A Team.
Im not seeing a team here yet, just hearing alot of excuses why they lose.

saintsfan1976 · 09-20-2015, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by pherein

It is that simple. Teams win Super Bowls. Not excuses or transition talk or not being able to work together on the field. Its a mind set. Rarely do you see the team with the best stats win a SB. I mean our D was #25 in 2009, but they were a team.
To get there is not so simple to create, thats coaching, but you shouldnt tolerate failure or excuses, that just makes you a loser, and complacent.
and I stole that line from Bill Belichick. Who won SB's with kickers,running, great QB, and the last one was all defence. A Team.
Im not seeing a team here yet, just hearing alot of excuses why they lose.

Teams aren't built in one season. That 2009 team took years to construct.

12 rookies. 50% roster turnover. Critical injuries. First game of the season.

Not even Bellichick could coach his way around that. What you're seeing is a process. This team will get better as the season goes and adds starters.

You don't see a team. I see hustle and mistakes on the way to building a team.

saintsfan1976 · 09-24-2015, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Teams aren't built in one season. That 2009 team took years to construct.

12 rookies. 50% roster turnover. Critical injuries. First game of the season.

Not even Bellichick could coach his way around that. What you're seeing is a process. This team will get better as the season goes and adds starters.

You don't see a team. I see hustle and mistakes on the way to building a team.

Tampa was a perfect example.

The young players stepped up. Despite an anemic offensive performance, the defense put us in a spot to win.

Had Brees not been injured due to poor blocking, we'd be 1-1.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study The screens to the WRs didn't seem to work as well as the ones to the RBs, IIRC. The right game plan was in place. The New Orleans Saints came in fully prepared in how to counteract an aggressive Arizona Cardinals defense. I know many Saints fans screamed at the TV to stop throwing screen passes, but that's how Sean Payton, Drew Brees and Co. put the Saints in several positions to score touchdowns. That whole getting the football into the end zone thing just wasn't working. Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study \| NOLA.com BusDriver likes this.
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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study Still a good sign that Ingram's pass catching has improved!

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WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study I remember seeing, more than once, our running backs miss the gaping holes opened up for them. I think their vision could be better, and I think they need to be told to open it up and go for the TD. Offensive linemen down the field are awesome to have blocking for you, which we have a lot of...but at some point, you've got to hit the gas and leave them all behind. Don't stand behind your blocks until you get caught from every other angle.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study First game with a depleted team, new faces, young players, on the road vs a tough opponent. We played poorly. Racked up penalties. And still had a chance to win it. leilung likes this.

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pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study you know every team has excuses for new players, injuries, new defense, new scheme, not buying it. losers make excuses. Good teams find a way to win. xan likes this.

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BusDriver 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ICT Kansas Posts: 183	Re: Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study If Coleman blocks/puts defender on his ass, Ingram would have scored on the long screen. I remember yelling it and saying if we end up not scoring that play will cost us. Still a good highlight of the day.

09-18-2015, 05:29 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study Originally Posted by pherein you know every team has excuses for new players, injuries, new defense, new scheme, not buying it. losers make excuses. Good teams find a way to win. Nice speech. However you know it's not that simple.

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pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Nice speech. However you know it's not that simple. It is that simple. Teams win Super Bowls. Not excuses or transition talk or not being able to work together on the field. Its a mind set. Rarely do you see the team with the best stats win a SB. I mean our D was #25 in 2009, but they were a team. To get there is not so simple to create, thats coaching, but you shouldnt tolerate failure or excuses, that just makes you a loser, and complacent. and I stole that line from Bill Belichick. Who won SB's with kickers,running, great QB, and the last one was all defence. A Team. Im not seeing a team here yet, just hearing alot of excuses why they lose. saintsfan1976 likes this.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study Originally Posted by pherein It is that simple. Teams win Super Bowls. Not excuses or transition talk or not being able to work together on the field. Its a mind set. Rarely do you see the team with the best stats win a SB. I mean our D was #25 in 2009, but they were a team. To get there is not so simple to create, thats coaching, but you shouldnt tolerate failure or excuses, that just makes you a loser, and complacent. and I stole that line from Bill Belichick. Who won SB's with kickers,running, great QB, and the last one was all defence. A Team. Im not seeing a team here yet, just hearing alot of excuses why they lose. Teams aren't built in one season. That 2009 team took years to construct. 12 rookies. 50% roster turnover. Critical injuries. First game of the season. Not even Bellichick could coach his way around that. What you're seeing is a process. This team will get better as the season goes and adds starters. You don't see a team. I see hustle and mistakes on the way to building a team. saintfan and Danno like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Hits and misses for Saints' offense in loss at Arizona: Offensive film study Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Teams aren't built in one season. That 2009 team took years to construct. 12 rookies. 50% roster turnover. Critical injuries. First game of the season. Not even Bellichick could coach his way around that. What you're seeing is a process. This team will get better as the season goes and adds starters. You don't see a team. I see hustle and mistakes on the way to building a team. Tampa was a perfect example. The young players stepped up. Despite an anemic offensive performance, the defense put us in a spot to win. Had Brees not been injured due to poor blocking, we'd be 1-1.

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