Hate to say it

neugey · 09-20-2015, 06:56 PM

Our franchise has a tendency to clean house, get hungry and reach another level of success, and then soon after that our leadership goes south. Happened under Mora, Haslett, and now Payton. Well technically, I'm too young to remember if we 'cleaned house' before Mora's arrival.

I'm sure this problem isn't unique to our franchise, but it damn sure is true with us.

Please no Cowher. He's been away for far too long, and I think it would turn out pretty poorly, like Ditka.

spkb25 · 09-20-2015, 07:06 PM

damn shame Harbuagh went to college. we need toughness. What about ken norton jr, is he headed in that direction?

spkb25 · 09-20-2015, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Our franchise has a tendency to clean house, get hungry and reach another level of success, and then soon after that our leadership goes south. Happened under Mora, Haslett, and now Payton. Well technically, I'm too young to remember if we 'cleaned house' before Mora's arrival.

I'm sure this problem isn't unique to our franchise, but it damn sure is true with us.

Please no Cowher. He's been away for far too long, and I think it would turn out pretty poorly, like Ditka.

i was kidding cause halo always says it to me, but we need that type of toughness.

Beastmode · 09-20-2015, 07:08 PM

All we have is Cooks at this point but he's covered by the best DB so that leaves us with pretty much nothing. Nobody else can get down field or get open. Cooks had to create a pick to get Snead a TD and even that was borderline penalty. Very disturbing situation. Counting the gift from the Bucs last year, that's a real losing climate of 7 games in a row with PS. This situation does not looked like we are going to be able to fix it.

hagan714 · 09-20-2015, 07:13 PM

hard to rebuild with cap max out for the next few years then add to it 25% of that cap is out walking the street or playing else were is a killer.

draft history
2014 1 player
2013 2 players
2012 1 player
2011 2 players
2010 ZERO

6 players still on the roster after 6 years

THERE IS THE ISSUE!

We need 2 solid years of drafting before 2017 or this could be a really stretch

neugey · 09-20-2015, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

All we have is Cooks at this point but he's covered by the best DB so that leaves us with pretty much nothing. Nobody else can get down field or get open. Cooks had to create a pick to get Snead a TD and even that was borderline penalty. Very disturbing situation. Counting the gift from the Bucs last year, that's a real losing climate of 7 games in a row with PS. This situation does not looked like we are going to be able to fix it.

I'm starting to think the Stills trade was where we really fugged up.

leilung · 09-20-2015, 08:31 PM

I blame a lack a vision from the front office.

I've been saying for the past year that Brees has lost his ability to see the field in depth and his deep pass. Without those, he's average...but his stats are deceptive due to the high number of passes (all short of 15 yards by the way).

Much like Favre, Montana, Warner, and others at the ends of their careers, his shelf life is expired and the team needs to look to the future. Dump him and his top heavy contract and get to rebuilding. Otherwise, we have another 2 years of watching a team in decline unable to rebuild!

nola_swammi · 09-21-2015, 01:35 AM

I would've like us to start building with Ryan Griffin but that is out the door. I am still trying to figure out why draft Grayson or P.J.Williams while Sammie Coates was still on the board

Marlboro Man · 09-21-2015, 01:45 AM

Seattle's 0-2 just like we are.

nola_swammi · 09-21-2015, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Seattle's 0-2 just like we are.

I guess they trying to adjust to the trade also. They ran up the middle over Unger (beast mode been on pause). We used Graham to either run route that freed the wr or get big plays from him, well big plays or there but opportunities are limited

09-20-2015, 06:56 PM	#31
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Hate to say it Our franchise has a tendency to clean house, get hungry and reach another level of success, and then soon after that our leadership goes south. Happened under Mora, Haslett, and now Payton. Well technically, I'm too young to remember if we 'cleaned house' before Mora's arrival. I'm sure this problem isn't unique to our franchise, but it damn sure is true with us. Please no Cowher. He's been away for far too long, and I think it would turn out pretty poorly, like Ditka. Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-20-2015, 07:06 PM	#32
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Hate to say it damn shame Harbuagh went to college. we need toughness. What about ken norton jr, is he headed in that direction?

09-20-2015, 07:06 PM	#33
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Hate to say it Originally Posted by neugey Our franchise has a tendency to clean house, get hungry and reach another level of success, and then soon after that our leadership goes south. Happened under Mora, Haslett, and now Payton. Well technically, I'm too young to remember if we 'cleaned house' before Mora's arrival. I'm sure this problem isn't unique to our franchise, but it damn sure is true with us. Please no Cowher. He's been away for far too long, and I think it would turn out pretty poorly, like Ditka. i was kidding cause halo always says it to me, but we need that type of toughness.

09-20-2015, 07:08 PM	#34
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Hate to say it All we have is Cooks at this point but he's covered by the best DB so that leaves us with pretty much nothing. Nobody else can get down field or get open. Cooks had to create a pick to get Snead a TD and even that was borderline penalty. Very disturbing situation. Counting the gift from the Bucs last year, that's a real losing climate of 7 games in a row with PS. This situation does not looked like we are going to be able to fix it.
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Hate to say it hard to rebuild with cap max out for the next few years then add to it 25% of that cap is out walking the street or playing else were is a killer. draft history 2014 1 player 2013 2 players 2012 1 player 2011 2 players 2010 ZERO 6 players still on the roster after 6 years THERE IS THE ISSUE! We need 2 solid years of drafting before 2017 or this could be a really stretch spkb25, nutria and Rugby Saint II like this.

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09-20-2015, 07:20 PM	#36
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Hate to say it Originally Posted by Beastmode All we have is Cooks at this point but he's covered by the best DB so that leaves us with pretty much nothing. Nobody else can get down field or get open. Cooks had to create a pick to get Snead a TD and even that was borderline penalty. Very disturbing situation. Counting the gift from the Bucs last year, that's a real losing climate of 7 games in a row with PS. This situation does not looked like we are going to be able to fix it. I'm starting to think the Stills trade was where we really fugged up. nola_swammi likes this.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,373	Re: Hate to say it I blame a lack a vision from the front office. I've been saying for the past year that Brees has lost his ability to see the field in depth and his deep pass. Without those, he's average...but his stats are deceptive due to the high number of passes (all short of 15 yards by the way). Much like Favre, Montana, Warner, and others at the ends of their careers, his shelf life is expired and the team needs to look to the future. Dump him and his top heavy contract and get to rebuilding. Otherwise, we have another 2 years of watching a team in decline unable to rebuild!
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09-21-2015, 01:35 AM	#38
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Hate to say it I would've like us to start building with Ryan Griffin but that is out the door. I am still trying to figure out why draft Grayson or P.J.Williams while Sammie Coates was still on the board

09-21-2015, 01:45 AM	#39
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Hate to say it Seattle's 0-2 just like we are.

09-21-2015, 02:23 AM	#40
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Hate to say it Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Seattle's 0-2 just like we are. I guess they trying to adjust to the trade also. They ran up the middle over Unger (beast mode been on pause). We used Graham to either run route that freed the wr or get big plays from him, well big plays or there but opportunities are limited

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