Hate to say it

dizzle88 · 09-20-2015, 05:44 PM

Drew had plenty of time on a couple of throws

Go back and watch the pick he threw
Play action, plenty of time and he threw an absolute wounded duck down field and into double coverage - interception.

Drew is not without blame, its time to move on from them both, our offense is not feared because every team (especially those in our division) have figured us out!!!

voodooido · 09-21-2015, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Drew had plenty of time on a couple of throws

Go back and watch the pick he threw
Play action, plenty of time and he threw an absolute wounded duck down field and into double coverage - interception.

Drew is not without blame, its time to move on from them both, our offense is not feared because every team (especially those in our division) have figured us out!!!

And now we know why. For 3 quarters he was playing with what they thought was a torn rotator cuff.

neugey · 09-20-2015, 05:56 PM

Our franchise has a tendency to clean house, get hungry and reach another level of success, and then soon after that our leadership goes south. Happened under Mora, Haslett, and now Payton. Well technically, I'm too young to remember if we 'cleaned house' before Mora's arrival.

I'm sure this problem isn't unique to our franchise, but it damn sure is true with us.

Please no Cowher. He's been away for far too long, and I think it would turn out pretty poorly, like Ditka.

spkb25 · 09-20-2015, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Our franchise has a tendency to clean house, get hungry and reach another level of success, and then soon after that our leadership goes south. Happened under Mora, Haslett, and now Payton. Well technically, I'm too young to remember if we 'cleaned house' before Mora's arrival.

I'm sure this problem isn't unique to our franchise, but it damn sure is true with us.

Please no Cowher. He's been away for far too long, and I think it would turn out pretty poorly, like Ditka.

i was kidding cause halo always says it to me, but we need that type of toughness.

spkb25 · 09-20-2015, 06:06 PM

damn shame Harbuagh went to college. we need toughness. What about ken norton jr, is he headed in that direction?

Beastmode · 09-20-2015, 06:08 PM

All we have is Cooks at this point but he's covered by the best DB so that leaves us with pretty much nothing. Nobody else can get down field or get open. Cooks had to create a pick to get Snead a TD and even that was borderline penalty. Very disturbing situation. Counting the gift from the Bucs last year, that's a real losing climate of 7 games in a row with PS. This situation does not looked like we are going to be able to fix it.

neugey · 09-20-2015, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

All we have is Cooks at this point but he's covered by the best DB so that leaves us with pretty much nothing. Nobody else can get down field or get open. Cooks had to create a pick to get Snead a TD and even that was borderline penalty. Very disturbing situation. Counting the gift from the Bucs last year, that's a real losing climate of 7 games in a row with PS. This situation does not looked like we are going to be able to fix it.

I'm starting to think the Stills trade was where we really fugged up.

hagan714 · 09-20-2015, 06:13 PM

hard to rebuild with cap max out for the next few years then add to it 25% of that cap is out walking the street or playing else were is a killer.

draft history
2014 1 player
2013 2 players
2012 1 player
2011 2 players
2010 ZERO

6 players still on the roster after 6 years

THERE IS THE ISSUE!

We need 2 solid years of drafting before 2017 or this could be a really stretch

leilung · 09-20-2015, 07:31 PM

I blame a lack a vision from the front office.

I've been saying for the past year that Brees has lost his ability to see the field in depth and his deep pass. Without those, he's average...but his stats are deceptive due to the high number of passes (all short of 15 yards by the way).

Much like Favre, Montana, Warner, and others at the ends of their careers, his shelf life is expired and the team needs to look to the future. Dump him and his top heavy contract and get to rebuilding. Otherwise, we have another 2 years of watching a team in decline unable to rebuild!

nola_swammi · 09-21-2015, 12:35 AM

I would've like us to start building with Ryan Griffin but that is out the door. I am still trying to figure out why draft Grayson or P.J.Williams while Sammie Coates was still on the board

09-20-2015, 05:44 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Hate to say it Drew had plenty of time on a couple of throws Go back and watch the pick he threw Play action, plenty of time and he threw an absolute wounded duck down field and into double coverage - interception. Drew is not without blame, its time to move on from them both, our offense is not feared because every team (especially those in our division) have figured us out!!!

09-21-2015, 06:37 PM	#2
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Hate to say it Originally Posted by dizzle88 Drew had plenty of time on a couple of throws Go back and watch the pick he threw Play action, plenty of time and he threw an absolute wounded duck down field and into double coverage - interception. Drew is not without blame, its time to move on from them both, our offense is not feared because every team (especially those in our division) have figured us out!!! And now we know why. For 3 quarters he was playing with what they thought was a torn rotator cuff.
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09-20-2015, 05:56 PM	#3
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Hate to say it Our franchise has a tendency to clean house, get hungry and reach another level of success, and then soon after that our leadership goes south. Happened under Mora, Haslett, and now Payton. Well technically, I'm too young to remember if we 'cleaned house' before Mora's arrival. I'm sure this problem isn't unique to our franchise, but it damn sure is true with us. Please no Cowher. He's been away for far too long, and I think it would turn out pretty poorly, like Ditka. Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-20-2015, 06:06 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Hate to say it Originally Posted by neugey Our franchise has a tendency to clean house, get hungry and reach another level of success, and then soon after that our leadership goes south. Happened under Mora, Haslett, and now Payton. Well technically, I'm too young to remember if we 'cleaned house' before Mora's arrival. I'm sure this problem isn't unique to our franchise, but it damn sure is true with us. Please no Cowher. He's been away for far too long, and I think it would turn out pretty poorly, like Ditka. i was kidding cause halo always says it to me, but we need that type of toughness.

09-20-2015, 06:06 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Hate to say it damn shame Harbuagh went to college. we need toughness. What about ken norton jr, is he headed in that direction?

09-20-2015, 06:08 PM	#6
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Hate to say it All we have is Cooks at this point but he's covered by the best DB so that leaves us with pretty much nothing. Nobody else can get down field or get open. Cooks had to create a pick to get Snead a TD and even that was borderline penalty. Very disturbing situation. Counting the gift from the Bucs last year, that's a real losing climate of 7 games in a row with PS. This situation does not looked like we are going to be able to fix it.
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09-20-2015, 06:20 PM	#7
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Hate to say it Originally Posted by Beastmode All we have is Cooks at this point but he's covered by the best DB so that leaves us with pretty much nothing. Nobody else can get down field or get open. Cooks had to create a pick to get Snead a TD and even that was borderline penalty. Very disturbing situation. Counting the gift from the Bucs last year, that's a real losing climate of 7 games in a row with PS. This situation does not looked like we are going to be able to fix it. I'm starting to think the Stills trade was where we really fugged up. nola_swammi likes this.

09-20-2015, 06:13 PM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Hate to say it hard to rebuild with cap max out for the next few years then add to it 25% of that cap is out walking the street or playing else were is a killer. draft history 2014 1 player 2013 2 players 2012 1 player 2011 2 players 2010 ZERO 6 players still on the roster after 6 years THERE IS THE ISSUE! We need 2 solid years of drafting before 2017 or this could be a really stretch spkb25, nutria and Rugby Saint II like this.

09-20-2015, 07:31 PM	#9
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,419	Re: Hate to say it I blame a lack a vision from the front office. I've been saying for the past year that Brees has lost his ability to see the field in depth and his deep pass. Without those, he's average...but his stats are deceptive due to the high number of passes (all short of 15 yards by the way). Much like Favre, Montana, Warner, and others at the ends of their careers, his shelf life is expired and the team needs to look to the future. Dump him and his top heavy contract and get to rebuilding. Otherwise, we have another 2 years of watching a team in decline unable to rebuild!
	A wise man once said, "Poo-poo smells just as bad as s#!%. One just SOUNDS cuter!"

09-21-2015, 12:35 AM	#10
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Hate to say it I would've like us to start building with Ryan Griffin but that is out the door. I am still trying to figure out why draft Grayson or P.J.Williams while Sammie Coates was still on the board

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