Are the New Orleans Saints the worst team in the NFC?

09-21-2015, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Remember when Darren Sproles' wife vowed we would face karma for how we did her husband?

I swear we live and die with Karma.

dizzle88 · 09-21-2015, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

I swear we live and die with Karma.

Either that or we live and die throwing screen passes.

Marlboro Man · 09-21-2015, 01:40 AM

In short, yes, we are.

pherein · 09-21-2015, 09:52 AM

They look like a wet dolphin on dry land trying to drink a cup of coffee.

Budsdrinker · 09-21-2015, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

For me this has been in the making. I said in 2013 defensively we were going to struggle because we got rid of some key players. J Vilma, R Harper, J Greer, M Jenkins and the list goes on. So in 2014 everyone hammered the defense although we had a bunch of young guys with no real leadership from a veteran presence. However, in 2014 when all was hammering the defense I wasn't as much. I did see the offense struggling in a major way. A lot of people were defending the offense because it was so easy to point out the flaws of the defense. It was easy to throw out stats that would suggest otherwise. BUT IF YOU WATCH FOOTBALL AND/OR KNOW THE GAME you wouldn't deny that the offense wasn't doing much better as well. We got rid of some major offensive weapons. So in the off season to get rid of your best TE (no. 2 in the nfl) and in my opinion an up coming receiver K Stills I knew we were going to struggle even more on offense. Although a lot of people think that Drew is a god I felt that he has no offense threats. No one that would cause match up problems for opposing defenses. Now with the defense vastly improving, our offense is looking like they did towards the end of 2013, definitely looks like they did in 2014. Everyone said I sound like a broken record. No one saw the train wreck that was ahead. Now its apparent in 2 games into this year the very things I said last year, and during this off season has come to light (go figure). Two years in a row I preached this. However, its only 2 games into the season I feel they were very competitive against the cards which I felt was a season determining game. Yesterday we played very flat. However, I do feel its still early in the season, we will win games but not much to say play off caliber. I predict we will go 7-9 and miss the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong but with no notable stand outs on our offense, especially in the wide receiving and TE positions its hard not to think otherwise.

Well, just want to point out that Jimmy Graham only has 7 receptions this year and Kenny Stills only has 3. Don't think they are the reason we suck right now. A declining Evans and Strief and young Lelito, Armstead and new center Unger gives you a struggling OL which in turns puts too much pressure on Brees. The run blocking is terrible and any DE with speed gets around Strief. Fix the OL and you have a much better Saints team.

Danno · 09-21-2015, 10:18 AM

Good grief, this again?

No one, and I mean no one thought the offense didn't have issues last year.
Remember Brees being called out for his ridiculous int's?

All of the calls for a better interior line? Evans and Goodwin were being criticized weekly.

Colston being called over the hill for his drops and fumbles?

The Ingram and Cadet bashing?

The "forcing" of throws to Graham?

The fans constantly wanting to run the ball more?

Everyone could see the Offense had issues, but most everyone knew the defense was even worse. Its why we have so many new faces on defense.

We have 25 new players on this team, the vast majority play defense for us.

Our defense last year was one of the worst in NFL history, and we addressed it heavily in the off-season, as we should have. I think over half of our defense wasn't here last year.

Mardigras9 · 09-21-2015, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

p.s. drew brees had ample amount of time yesterday to throw the ball. he couldn't get it done because no one apparently was getting open.

Not sure I can say ample amount of time? Drew was heavily pressured and abused most of the game I was watching. I do agree with no one was getting open though.

brees84 · 09-21-2015, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

The run blocking is terrible and any DE with speed gets around Strief.

Yes, this is serious issue because Peat isn't any better at this moment.

pherein · 09-21-2015, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Good grief, this again?

I think over half of our defense wasn't here last year.

Well we need to get rid of the 1/2 that stayed they still suck.

UK_WhoDat · 09-21-2015, 11:30 AM

I don't do bests or worsts. However we sure ain't good. We look like a team that will not put up touchdowns, our special teams are poor, and our defense looks like they will keep the opposition on the firld at any time.

09-21-2015, 12:09 AM	#21
Threaded by RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Remember when Darren Sproles' wife vowed we would face karma for how we did her husband? I swear we live and die with Karma.
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09-21-2015, 01:15 AM	#22
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Are the New Orleans Saints the worst team in the NFC? Originally Posted by RailBoss I swear we live and die with Karma. Either that or we live and die throwing screen passes. jnormand likes this.

09-21-2015, 01:40 AM	#23
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Are the New Orleans Saints the worst team in the NFC? In short, yes, we are.

09-21-2015, 09:52 AM	#24
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Are the New Orleans Saints the worst team in the NFC? They look like a wet dolphin on dry land trying to drink a cup of coffee.

09-21-2015, 10:05 AM	#25
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Are the New Orleans Saints the worst team in the NFC? Originally Posted by teddybarexxx For me this has been in the making. I said in 2013 defensively we were going to struggle because we got rid of some key players. J Vilma, R Harper, J Greer, M Jenkins and the list goes on. So in 2014 everyone hammered the defense although we had a bunch of young guys with no real leadership from a veteran presence. However, in 2014 when all was hammering the defense I wasn't as much. I did see the offense struggling in a major way. A lot of people were defending the offense because it was so easy to point out the flaws of the defense. It was easy to throw out stats that would suggest otherwise. BUT IF YOU WATCH FOOTBALL AND/OR KNOW THE GAME you wouldn't deny that the offense wasn't doing much better as well. We got rid of some major offensive weapons. So in the off season to get rid of your best TE (no. 2 in the nfl) and in my opinion an up coming receiver K Stills I knew we were going to struggle even more on offense. Although a lot of people think that Drew is a god I felt that he has no offense threats. No one that would cause match up problems for opposing defenses. Now with the defense vastly improving, our offense is looking like they did towards the end of 2013, definitely looks like they did in 2014. Everyone said I sound like a broken record. No one saw the train wreck that was ahead. Now its apparent in 2 games into this year the very things I said last year, and during this off season has come to light (go figure). Two years in a row I preached this. However, its only 2 games into the season I feel they were very competitive against the cards which I felt was a season determining game. Yesterday we played very flat. However, I do feel its still early in the season, we will win games but not much to say play off caliber. I predict we will go 7-9 and miss the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong but with no notable stand outs on our offense, especially in the wide receiving and TE positions its hard not to think otherwise. Well, just want to point out that Jimmy Graham only has 7 receptions this year and Kenny Stills only has 3. Don't think they are the reason we suck right now. A declining Evans and Strief and young Lelito, Armstead and new center Unger gives you a struggling OL which in turns puts too much pressure on Brees. The run blocking is terrible and any DE with speed gets around Strief. Fix the OL and you have a much better Saints team. jnormand, Rugby Saint II, Rell&Gold and 1 others like this.

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09-21-2015, 10:18 AM	#26
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Are the New Orleans Saints the worst team in the NFC? Good grief, this again? No one, and I mean no one thought the offense didn't have issues last year. Remember Brees being called out for his ridiculous int's? All of the calls for a better interior line? Evans and Goodwin were being criticized weekly. Colston being called over the hill for his drops and fumbles? The Ingram and Cadet bashing? The "forcing" of throws to Graham? The fans constantly wanting to run the ball more? Everyone could see the Offense had issues, but most everyone knew the defense was even worse. Its why we have so many new faces on defense. We have 25 new players on this team, the vast majority play defense for us. Our defense last year was one of the worst in NFL history, and we addressed it heavily in the off-season, as we should have. I think over half of our defense wasn't here last year. Rugby Saint II and CharityMike like this.

09-21-2015, 11:05 AM	#27
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Are the New Orleans Saints the worst team in the NFC? Originally Posted by teddybarexxx p.s. drew brees had ample amount of time yesterday to throw the ball. he couldn't get it done because no one apparently was getting open. Not sure I can say ample amount of time? Drew was heavily pressured and abused most of the game I was watching. I do agree with no one was getting open though. jnormand, Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.

09-21-2015, 11:06 AM	#28
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Are the New Orleans Saints the worst team in the NFC? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker The run blocking is terrible and any DE with speed gets around Strief. Yes, this is serious issue because Peat isn't any better at this moment.
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09-21-2015, 11:20 AM	#29
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Are the New Orleans Saints the worst team in the NFC? Originally Posted by Danno Good grief, this again? I think over half of our defense wasn't here last year. Well we need to get rid of the 1/2 that stayed they still suck.
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09-21-2015, 11:30 AM	#30
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: Are the New Orleans Saints the worst team in the NFC? I don't do bests or worsts. However we sure ain't good. We look like a team that will not put up touchdowns, our special teams are poor, and our defense looks like they will keep the opposition on the firld at any time.

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