End of the Drew Breed Era ?
 

Today I think was the beginning of the end of the Drew Brees Era. I was convinced today that Breed is a declining star . We don't have the talent for a aging QB to be successful... Painful to watch it play out Today.

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I am just one more game lost to watching mock drafts for next year��

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I'm in total agreement. I think the Brees/Payton era is over. I think Payton think so too. That's why he drafted a QB. But when Drew goes so should Payton. They have accomplished everything they are going to accomplish. The expiration date has arrived.

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You mustint know Drew Brees very well.

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Its not the end for Brees, but I believe he could be more successful elsewhere. We don't have it. It's been gone since 2012.

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I'd rather Brees get his second ring elsewhere if he couldn't get it here. The last thing I want is Matt Ryan surpassing him. I know Ryan hasn't even won one yet but still.

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Brees is gonna count 27.4 on the cap next year. He could be cut to save 20 million. Big decision to make in the offseason.

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Done and done. Time to fire Payton and Loomis. Do you know how many great players we could have with our dead money?!

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Cut Brees for 20 mil. I'm in. He can't throw 50 yds anymore and he doesn't beat people with his feet much anymore. He's not worth his cap hit. Our only hope is Khiry Robinson becoming the next Marshawn Lynch.

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I'm not sure if he and his wife are still breeding, but that's none of my business. Nah, I know what you meant, lol. But seriously, I don't know. I can say with conviction he is past his prime. That was something I already thought, but seeing all those dying butterflies he was attempting to throw downfield was the most discouraging sign I've seen from him, yet.

It was consistent. Just had no life on his passes. He's gonna have to reinvent himself if he wants to be successful, unless there's an injury he's not telling us about. He already claimed to have hid an injury from us last year, and not that I don't believe him, but all that stuff he said about putting in all that work to fix his mechanics in the off season, and being in the best shape of his career has produced nothing positive on the field.

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I'm not sure what it is. The O line I thought should be good enough. Our RBs should be good enough if they can stay healthy. I question Our receivers. Not physical enough to make the plays. That last play was a hail Mary thrown to Cooks, the shortest guy on the field.
I think Brees still has it in him but he needs more talent around him. Matt Ryan looks like a stud but he had talented receivers and tight end around him. Julio Jones can't be stopped

And don't get me started on our Defense. So it's too hard to pinpoint this on Brees.

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Our defense has the pieces in place to help this team along for the next year or two until we find a legit replacement. Our D did its job today. Rookies.

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Of course the WR's are the problem. Drew doesn't trust any of them at this point. Yes there were some problems in protection but most of the time he had all day to throw.

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You shouldn't get started on the defense because they played well.

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1 dropped pass by the fullback and now we blame the wrs?

I saw about 12 passes that looked like wounded ducks...

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The defense played well for a quarter. The Bucs are bad, and the amount of big plays we gave up were inexcusable.

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Yes. I've been saying this all day. I don't get how anyone would not see this. Who's going to catch a pass thrown 10 feet behind them?

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yep and thats how they fake us fans out every year. They play one damn good quarter or half and blow the rest. So fans accually think they are good, they suck, and cant play a whole game. Never have been able to sence 2006.

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I'm usually a "Sunshiner" but it looks bleak. My brother asked me if Brees is done and my response was that Drew has a couple of years left but by the time the Saints are done rebuilding, he'll be 40 years old.

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Just, end of an era……..every player, coach and management personnel,,,,just and end.

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My biggest complaint about yesterday was Brees got hurt in the game, but he was kept in there. That is all on Sean Payton. I strongly believe that a healthy Luke McCown wins that game for the Saints.

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+1. 'Each great athlete must some day bow to that perennial old champion, Father Time, even as I, for Time eventually wins.' - Major Taylor

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I kinda agree. It looked like Brees was really struggeling yesterday.

If this season is it for Brees I hope he realizes it himself and retires rather than getting cut or traded.

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I wont go this far. End of Drews era with the saints maybe. but not now

We do not have a starting caliber QB on this roster. Garrett Grayson? long shot. I see him as probably developing into one of the best backup QB in the NFL thus excellent trade bait.

If we tank this year the 2016 draft looks to have a better crop of QB than this year. Top 10 pick? Conner Cook still gets my vote to sell the house for if needed. Now your talking about taking this risk with a solid gamble of a franchise QB on the team.

If we make a move in the draft then I will entertain the the end of an era. Till then we will keep or 20 million dollar man on board and probably make him a 25 million dollar man when we resign him in 2016 or 2017.

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Brees was definitely injured yesterday and should have come out. Mike Tripplet has a picture of the play on his facebook page and you can see the strain in Brees' arm when he is trying to throw when the Buc's lineman has his arm. But Brees is too much of a competitor to take himself out of a game, Payton has to do it.

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Brees was always going to get to an end date. It ain't quite yet. I doubt he will have one of the best seasons of his career. However that line needs to be a lot better and he needs to go injury free.

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How can you blame Brees??? Blame that bum that we continue to pay STRIEF!!! give him protection and maybe just maybe that was a touchdown pass

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I agree, if Brees was hurt and they actually knew it, he should have come out. But McCown winning the game put into that same amount of defensive pressure, doubt it.

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How do you explain the wounded ducks Brees through in that game?
Have you watched his press conference when he said he just didn't throw the ball well...

Brees holding on to the ball for too long is just as much of an issue as the line, and when he had the time to throw he couldn't get the ball there. He is done, now more than ever because he got hurt, but rather than make the tough call and bench him Payton will let him play. Brees will look like a shell of his former self for the rest of the year while we rely on the running game and defense to win games.

Listen, I didn't want to see Brees go out like this but after watching his post game presser and reading about the parts they edited out I was shocked at his attitude. I think, for the first time, he knows he's done.

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Hopefully the rumors that Brees tore his rotator cuff aren't true.

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Can't be happy with this stat, but it's very likely Brees was injured;
"Brees was just 2-of-12 on throws of at least 15 yards down the field Sunday (16.7 percent). That was his worst completion percentage on such throws in the last 10 seasons, according to ESPN Stats & Info."

I don't think there is a question of Brees being hurt but rather how bad is it, he clearly can't throw the deep ball.

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The BNG is the place I go so that I can be knowledgeable about my Saints. We have so many great members who bring in and share tremendous info. Our members help keep me sane when things go wrong...........

Having said that "Stop with the doom and destruction talk"!!!
We have already taken steps to turn the team around. Now give it time! There will be growing pains but we are growing and getting better. Who Dat! :bng:

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The ducks came as a result of a hit Drew took, and that was a result of some pitiful blocking on Strief's part. Our O-line has been having it's lunch handed to them from Gerald McCoy & Co for as long as I can remember. So what I am struggling with more than anything is, knowing that, why can't we chip block or stunt or SOMETHING to help the cause?! Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over w/ different results expected.

When this team was at its peak, what I distinctly remember us being good at was, IN-GAME-ADJUSTMENTS. I just don't see it anymore. AM I missing something? It just doesn't seem to happen that way anymore. In years past, from the first quarter through the course of a game, you could ALWAYS see us make some type of adjustment and I can't find any examples of that happening these days.

Maybe it's all relative. Maybe those adjustments were easier because we had more depth, and the bad drafts, poor contracts, etc. are all just magnified as a result.

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Admittedly, I haven't watched a game this year, but what happened to "Brees is in mid season form" as the preseason ended?

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He was until the hits on his shoulder.

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He barely played this pre-season, which tells me this may have been an issue before the season started.

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Can you edit the subject header?

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He didn't look so hot last season. Ducks, poor judgement, but what I looked for the most was the throwing behind recievers that = arm strenghth.