RUMOR - Torn Rotator Cuff

AsylumGuido · 09-22-2015, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Backup generators, and I'm assuming they're of the commercial variety because he's out there standing on the railroad tracks, et ... .

They are Verizon commercials. The backup generator was just a hook to tie McCown's job into the line.

SloMotion · 09-22-2015, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They are Verizon commercials. The backup generator was just a hook to tie McCown's job into the line.

Oh, thanks,

... what do I know? I'm usually chowing down, on my laptop or doing something stupid during commercial breaks,

.

AsylumGuido · 09-22-2015, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

First of all it is not a rumor, but fact, that Drew Brees has a torn rotator cuff...

He's had it since he's been playing for us...

Second, what he does have is a reconstructed joint of sorts that requires continually rehab work, harder workouts than most other quarterbacks, to maintain the required strength and range of motion to perform as a passer...

Now, what may and probably did happened is he received an acute trauma (bad f*cking bruise) to that reconstructed joint upon being sacked...

And that is why he'll need to rest to reduce swelling and fluid accumulate...

Then he'll need to carefully balance rehab while not aggravating the recuperating reconstructed joint...

Usually 72 hours of recovery is necessary for a more accurate diagnostic test and diagnosis...

While I hate to see our most successful quarterback in team history go down like this, I look forward to the opportunity to see if Grayson can step up and show what moxie he has...

And if Grayson has the right stuff, then it'll be time to approach Drew to do the what's best for the team and retire gracefully and relieve the team of serious cap strain...

How can you make that crap up like that?

No, Brees has not had a torn rotator cuff injury since playing for us. As far I know, going back to his high school playing days, he has NEVER had a torn rotator cuff. In 2005 he suffered a torn labrum and that was successfully repaired surgically.

While he does have harder workouts than most QB's it has nothing to do with with the labrum injury, but is instead preventative in nature to help prevent future injuries. You would know about this if you read his book.

I have to admit, though, you do feed a nice line of bullcrap.

jonnyrotten · 09-22-2015, 10:55 AM

Not sure of validity, but i am starting to hear rumors that Brees will be playing this week. Again i have nothing to back that up but random tweets from unknown sources.... so i am basically useless.

AsylumGuido · 09-22-2015, 11:03 AM

As an addendum, Brees' injury did include "minor damage" to the rotator cuff, but there was no tear that has existed since that time as indicated above.

Halo · 09-22-2015, 12:26 PM

Again, pretty well established Brees bruised his rotator cuff. That's like miles different from tearing a rotator cuff. Brees shoulder injury was repaired in 2005 and I think that went pretty well, so unless you hear it was "reinjured" then it's not a factor.

Prognosis is he'll probably be doubtful this week and McCown will start, Brees will miss unless emergency. He'll be back the next week.

Drew Brees shoulder injury: Quick return is possible, but rotator cuff injuries vary | NOLA.com

P.S. - there's a lot of hysteria on the internet about this and if you feel freaked out, you should. Brees has been the savior and scapegoat for this team since 2010. When he got paid, the scapegoating got 100 times worse. Truth is, if he misses a game, the team will need to grow up and learn to play without him. I think we've grown too dependent on Brees saving us every game.

RaginCajun83 · 09-22-2015, 12:45 PM

from Ed Werder Source: Dr James Andrews confirms #Saints QB Drew Brees does NOT have a tear in rotator cuff of throwing shoulder. Rehab crucial. Status TBD

i'd rather hear it from Brees himself but its all I got right now

SaintsBro · 09-22-2015, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

P.S. - there's a lot of hysteria on the internet about this

Sheez, you can say that again. That is why I am waiting patiently until Drew speaks on Wednesday.

Drew is a great football player and person, a standup guy, but let's face it, if there's one thing he's NOT, he is not a very good liar.... And anyone who's ever seen him burn a time-out trying to fake out a defense on 4th down, knows he is not a very good actor either.

So I am going to chill out and wait patiently until Wednesday, and if he's really hurt badly, I think a smart observer of Brees if you've actually watched him over the years, will will know it right away when he speaks to reporters or does an interview or whatever. He might not come right out and blurt it out to everybody, on a silver platter, but I think we'll be able to listen to him talk, and guess or read the tea leaves pretty well from that. Everything else right now is just wild speculation, guessing and internet arguing.

Rugby Saint II · 09-22-2015, 01:10 PM

OK.......I'm a little worried.

Mardigras9 · 09-22-2015, 03:10 PM

So let's just assume Brees does play. He was sacked four times, had his throwing arm stopped by a defender in mid-throw twice that I can remember, and was abused most of the day against Tampa. We are playing Carolina who I believe has the second best defense currently in the league. How smart is that for him to suit up with a "compromised" shoulder with no indication it won't be just as bad for him?

09-22-2015, 10:29 AM	#81
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: RUMOR - Torn Rotator Cuff Originally Posted by SloMotion Backup generators, and I'm assuming they're of the commercial variety because he's out there standing on the railroad tracks, et ... . They are Verizon commercials. The backup generator was just a hook to tie McCown's job into the line. SloMotion likes this.

09-22-2015, 10:37 AM	#82
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: RUMOR - Torn Rotator Cuff Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They are Verizon commercials. The backup generator was just a hook to tie McCown's job into the line. Oh, thanks, ... what do I know? I'm usually chowing down, on my laptop or doing something stupid during commercial breaks, . K Major likes this.

09-22-2015, 10:44 AM	#83
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: RUMOR - Torn Rotator Cuff Originally Posted by jeanpierre First of all it is not a rumor, but fact, that Drew Brees has a torn rotator cuff... He's had it since he's been playing for us... Second, what he does have is a reconstructed joint of sorts that requires continually rehab work, harder workouts than most other quarterbacks, to maintain the required strength and range of motion to perform as a passer... Now, what may and probably did happened is he received an acute trauma (bad f*cking bruise) to that reconstructed joint upon being sacked... And that is why he'll need to rest to reduce swelling and fluid accumulate... Then he'll need to carefully balance rehab while not aggravating the recuperating reconstructed joint... Usually 72 hours of recovery is necessary for a more accurate diagnostic test and diagnosis... While I hate to see our most successful quarterback in team history go down like this, I look forward to the opportunity to see if Grayson can step up and show what moxie he has... And if Grayson has the right stuff, then it'll be time to approach Drew to do the what's best for the team and retire gracefully and relieve the team of serious cap strain... How can you make that crap up like that? No, Brees has not had a torn rotator cuff injury since playing for us. As far I know, going back to his high school playing days, he has NEVER had a torn rotator cuff. In 2005 he suffered a torn labrum and that was successfully repaired surgically. While he does have harder workouts than most QB's it has nothing to do with with the labrum injury, but is instead preventative in nature to help prevent future injuries. You would know about this if you read his book. I have to admit, though, you do feed a nice line of bullcrap.

09-22-2015, 10:55 AM	#84
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 511	Re: RUMOR - Torn Rotator Cuff Not sure of validity, but i am starting to hear rumors that Brees will be playing this week. Again i have nothing to back that up but random tweets from unknown sources.... so i am basically useless.

09-22-2015, 11:03 AM	#85
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: RUMOR - Torn Rotator Cuff As an addendum, Brees' injury did include "minor damage" to the rotator cuff, but there was no tear that has existed since that time as indicated above.

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09-22-2015, 12:26 PM	#86
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,605 Blog Entries: 45	Re: RUMOR - Torn Rotator Cuff Again, pretty well established Brees bruised his rotator cuff. That's like miles different from tearing a rotator cuff. Brees shoulder injury was repaired in 2005 and I think that went pretty well, so unless you hear it was "reinjured" then it's not a factor. Prognosis is he'll probably be doubtful this week and McCown will start, Brees will miss unless emergency. He'll be back the next week. Drew Brees shoulder injury: Quick return is possible, but rotator cuff injuries vary \| NOLA.com P.S. - there's a lot of hysteria on the internet about this and if you feel freaked out, you should. Brees has been the savior and scapegoat for this team since 2010. When he got paid, the scapegoating got 100 times worse. Truth is, if he misses a game, the team will need to grow up and learn to play without him. I think we've grown too dependent on Brees saving us every game. saintfan, SaintsBro and frydaddy like this.
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09-22-2015, 12:45 PM	#87
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: RUMOR - Torn Rotator Cuff from Ed Werder Source: Dr James Andrews confirms #Saints QB Drew Brees does NOT have a tear in rotator cuff of throwing shoulder. Rehab crucial. Status TBD i'd rather hear it from Brees himself but its all I got right now

09-22-2015, 12:55 PM	#88
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: RUMOR - Torn Rotator Cuff Originally Posted by Halo P.S. - there's a lot of hysteria on the internet about this Sheez, you can say that again. That is why I am waiting patiently until Drew speaks on Wednesday. Drew is a great football player and person, a standup guy, but let's face it, if there's one thing he's NOT, he is not a very good liar.... And anyone who's ever seen him burn a time-out trying to fake out a defense on 4th down, knows he is not a very good actor either. So I am going to chill out and wait patiently until Wednesday, and if he's really hurt badly, I think a smart observer of Brees if you've actually watched him over the years, will will know it right away when he speaks to reporters or does an interview or whatever. He might not come right out and blurt it out to everybody, on a silver platter, but I think we'll be able to listen to him talk, and guess or read the tea leaves pretty well from that. Everything else right now is just wild speculation, guessing and internet arguing.

09-22-2015, 01:10 PM	#89
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: RUMOR - Torn Rotator Cuff OK.......I'm a little worried.

09-22-2015, 03:10 PM	#90
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: RUMOR - Torn Rotator Cuff So let's just assume Brees does play. He was sacked four times, had his throwing arm stopped by a defender in mid-throw twice that I can remember, and was abused most of the day against Tampa. We are playing Carolina who I believe has the second best defense currently in the league. How smart is that for him to suit up with a "compromised" shoulder with no indication it won't be just as bad for him?

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