An AB Option???

saintswhodi · 02-11-2005, 10:47 AM

He\'s a different QB.

JKool · 02-11-2005, 10:49 AM

I\'m not saying no, but could someone explain his drop off in performance this year, just decrease my level of concern.

His QB rating dropped 5 points, and his completion percentage dropped 3 points (to below the coveted 60 mark, no less).

I don\'t think he is a bad option by any means.

GumboBC · 02-11-2005, 10:50 AM

He\'s a different QB.

Yeah, but, but, but....

Aren\'t we trying to improve our team?

Oh, I get it ... Some folks don\'t care about that ... They just want Brooks gone....

Settle down folks........ I\'m just joking... :P

[Edited on 11/2/2005 by GumboBC]

[Edited on 11/2/2005 by GumboBC]

LKelley67 · 02-11-2005, 11:01 AM

i would go for a lot less proven product than him. he is hoping to get franchised by seattle to get top 5 pay. i think they will franchise walter jones or alexander before him. he\'ll probably draw terms similar to AB on the open market. if favre retires gb is sposed to be ready to jump on him. arz or clev possible. IF ya open a spot for him on the roster, sure, bring him on. he has a wilt under pressure rep but is similar to AB in that a change of scenery may help. i do think there is better bang for the buck players out there tho. kinda a pipe dream imaging this front office making a splash like that anyhoo. i would be thrilled to see them get at least a tommy polley to hartwell lb.

seattle\'s wide outs were ridiculed more than any other team last year for endless drops, not great at all.

saintswhodi · 02-11-2005, 11:05 AM

Kool, I know you are a fan of QB rating so look at Hass\' career rating.
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12429

In that same list at the bottom look at his FUMBLES. Not even close.

Just so you can compare here is AB.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133233

Hasselbeck has at least completed over 60% for a season, TWICE. AB never, ever, ever, not gonna happen.

But here\'s some more stats to compare. Look at this and look at his percentage of drops as compared to bad passes at the bottom.

http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...4416&Submit=Go

Now look at AB\'s:

http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...4781&Submit=Go

Vastly different.

Now also consider I have yet to hear anyone say he is not a team guy, I don\'t recall him being on any blooper reels, and I have yet to hear him call himself great on ESPN and diss his team. All signs say YES IMMEDIATELY MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

4saintspirit · 02-11-2005, 11:06 AM

Hasselback isn\'t any better than AB. While I am no Brooks fan I got to say -- AB at least has an upside (strong arm - good legs - potential). Hassleback has nothing -- and has done nothing with a better coach. In order to get risd of AB we need a definite imptovement -- and lets not bring up Brees the 1 year wonder -- I would rather have a young QB like RIvers.

WD52 · 02-11-2005, 11:09 AM

Well, Hasselbeck is a good option, I don\'t know though.... Where is The Brooks I first Fell in Love with, when Blake went down?
This is Truly a case of his Desire dropping after the contract..... He is Not Vick, But at least he could go all out sometimes.......... He doesn\'t even seem to know when or when not to scramble anymore. And to me that is one of the Main Reasons His Opponets are so numerous, Except for Backward passes, Fumbles, smirks and his Greater than His team attitude as of late... Brooks could be one of the Best, with new inspiration........... That is why I think it would Be good for Brooks and the Saints, to Part ways.........
I do not want to give him away, I would Rather a quality Vetern to step in for him, or keep him as insurance for a stud draft pick!!!!!!!
My only concern with keeping him is if he performs worse there we are holding the Bag with no Value for trade and a remaining big contract, his value is decent right now!!!!!!

As Far as Hasselbeck is concerned, I think he couldn\'t do any worse........ but I do not know how much better he would be..........

saintswhodi · 02-11-2005, 11:15 AM

Hasselbeck not better than AB?? LMAO. Now that is funny. If anything he is AB WITHOUT all the extra baggage you get with AB. Fumbles, bad attitude, lackadaisical(sp?) effort, ego. His attitude alone is a huge upgrade. I am with WD on this one, we keep AB another year and he makes the top 2 of Sportscenter\'s top 10 bonehead plays of the year AGAIN(I think he had only one the year before) his value will PLUMETT and we will be left holding the bag on his already too big contract. The time is now.

saintswhodi · 02-11-2005, 11:16 AM

AND, he can throw a TOUCH PASS, he knows what it is. Isn\'t that alone worth the deal?

LKelley67 · 02-11-2005, 11:25 AM

all the excitement requires a ab exit strategy tho. who would take him and how much could you get?

my general managing viable options...

SF for pick #33, go with his daddy and relieve them of having to pick rodgers or smith as unworthy #1s

DAL for some kinda pick #20 or #43 combo, cant see parcells going for him tho

CLEV could we get romeo to fall for him for pick #35?

ARZ dennis greene migt like his \"skills\" for a 2nd rder

SEA replace hasslebeck for pick #23

02-11-2005, 10:47 AM	#11
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	An AB Option??? He\'s a different QB.

02-11-2005, 10:49 AM	#12
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	An AB Option??? I\'m not saying no, but could someone explain his drop off in performance this year, just decrease my level of concern. His QB rating dropped 5 points, and his completion percentage dropped 3 points (to below the coveted 60 mark, no less). I don\'t think he is a bad option by any means.

02-11-2005, 10:50 AM	#13
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	An AB Option??? He\'s a different QB. Yeah, but, but, but.... Aren\'t we trying to improve our team? Oh, I get it ... Some folks don\'t care about that ... They just want Brooks gone.... Settle down folks........ I\'m just joking... :P [Edited on 11/2/2005 by GumboBC] [Edited on 11/2/2005 by GumboBC]
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02-11-2005, 11:01 AM	#14
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	An AB Option??? i would go for a lot less proven product than him. he is hoping to get franchised by seattle to get top 5 pay. i think they will franchise walter jones or alexander before him. he\'ll probably draw terms similar to AB on the open market. if favre retires gb is sposed to be ready to jump on him. arz or clev possible. IF ya open a spot for him on the roster, sure, bring him on. he has a wilt under pressure rep but is similar to AB in that a change of scenery may help. i do think there is better bang for the buck players out there tho. kinda a pipe dream imaging this front office making a splash like that anyhoo. i would be thrilled to see them get at least a tommy polley to hartwell lb. seattle\'s wide outs were ridiculed more than any other team last year for endless drops, not great at all.

02-11-2005, 11:05 AM	#15
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	An AB Option??? Kool, I know you are a fan of QB rating so look at Hass\' career rating. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12429 In that same list at the bottom look at his FUMBLES. Not even close. Just so you can compare here is AB. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133233 Hasselbeck has at least completed over 60% for a season, TWICE. AB never, ever, ever, not gonna happen. But here\'s some more stats to compare. Look at this and look at his percentage of drops as compared to bad passes at the bottom. http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...4416&Submit=Go Now look at AB\'s: http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...4781&Submit=Go Vastly different. Now also consider I have yet to hear anyone say he is not a team guy, I don\'t recall him being on any blooper reels, and I have yet to hear him call himself great on ESPN and diss his team. All signs say YES IMMEDIATELY MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

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02-11-2005, 11:06 AM	#16
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	An AB Option??? Hasselback isn\'t any better than AB. While I am no Brooks fan I got to say -- AB at least has an upside (strong arm - good legs - potential). Hassleback has nothing -- and has done nothing with a better coach. In order to get risd of AB we need a definite imptovement -- and lets not bring up Brees the 1 year wonder -- I would rather have a young QB like RIvers.
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02-11-2005, 11:09 AM	#17
WD52 Registered Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 80	An AB Option??? Well, Hasselbeck is a good option, I don\'t know though.... Where is The Brooks I first Fell in Love with, when Blake went down? This is Truly a case of his Desire dropping after the contract..... He is Not Vick, But at least he could go all out sometimes.......... He doesn\'t even seem to know when or when not to scramble anymore. And to me that is one of the Main Reasons His Opponets are so numerous, Except for Backward passes, Fumbles, smirks and his Greater than His team attitude as of late... Brooks could be one of the Best, with new inspiration........... That is why I think it would Be good for Brooks and the Saints, to Part ways......... I do not want to give him away, I would Rather a quality Vetern to step in for him, or keep him as insurance for a stud draft pick!!!!!!! My only concern with keeping him is if he performs worse there we are holding the Bag with no Value for trade and a remaining big contract, his value is decent right now!!!!!! As Far as Hasselbeck is concerned, I think he couldn\'t do any worse........ but I do not know how much better he would be..........
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02-11-2005, 11:15 AM	#18
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	An AB Option??? Hasselbeck not better than AB?? LMAO. Now that is funny. If anything he is AB WITHOUT all the extra baggage you get with AB. Fumbles, bad attitude, lackadaisical(sp?) effort, ego. His attitude alone is a huge upgrade. I am with WD on this one, we keep AB another year and he makes the top 2 of Sportscenter\'s top 10 bonehead plays of the year AGAIN(I think he had only one the year before) his value will PLUMETT and we will be left holding the bag on his already too big contract. The time is now.

02-11-2005, 11:16 AM	#19
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	An AB Option??? AND, he can throw a TOUCH PASS, he knows what it is. Isn\'t that alone worth the deal?

02-11-2005, 11:25 AM	#20
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	An AB Option??? all the excitement requires a ab exit strategy tho. who would take him and how much could you get? my general managing viable options... SF for pick #33, go with his daddy and relieve them of having to pick rodgers or smith as unworthy #1s DAL for some kinda pick #20 or #43 combo, cant see parcells going for him tho CLEV could we get romeo to fall for him for pick #35? ARZ dennis greene migt like his \"skills\" for a 2nd rder SEA replace hasslebeck for pick #23